I (20M) have been talking to and hanging out with a girl I met thru work (20F) and we've hung out several times at my place and twice now its been for 8 hrs as well as talking on the phone for hours on end 2-3 hrs. we both do a lot of art and we do kinda like an art jam type thing were the first time she tried to teach me how to paint (I sucked at it) and then this time I taught her how to sculpt (she did damn good for her first try i will say).

During these hang outs 2 things have happened every time

1) we go out for food eventually because of how long we hang out and I make a point to pay for it since im the guy(momma raised THAT type of guy...)

2) we end up talking about kinky stuff/our kinks(came out of no where the first time)

The kinky stuff is way over the line of what *I* would call just friends chatting about stuff, this most recent time we had talked about learning a few Shibari self ties but on the phone she had said "ill probably get confused, you should just tie me".

she is also into spanking as well as being a minor masochist and has said "well that's not where I like being hit" after I accidentally bumped into her with the cart when we were out shopping one time.

when on the topic of roles and D/s I said I was a Dominant and her first response was "well you haven't seen you be very dominant" and I had given her the old "well I'm not your dominant and your not my sub so I'm not going to be *dominant* to you" and her reaction was one of indifference while I could also see a few gears click in her head.

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Today when we were hanging out I was worried that I was seeing these things as "hints" when there may be nothing of the likes, I actually spoke with her in a very open way and explained that although I would love to do some ties and such I wasn't necessarily comfortable tying her since the only other time I've tied someone it "wasn't very platonic" (it was in a scene not just in my living room chatting).

she looked disappointed, I don't know if she was just sad because she thought it would be fun or if she was disappointed because I misinterpreted her hint(s) .

we did end up doing self Ties and yes she did get confused and manage to get tangled and need to be helped to get out.

at like 10pm when she decided it was getting late and she should head out while I walked her out to her car (again THAT type of guy) I did say to her that if she did want me to tie her and spank her (she's has made a few comments about wanting that) then she'd have to let me take her out on an official date in order to do that.\

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her response "I'll think about it".

am I over thinking this: yes.

do I still want some advice from other doms & subs who've had a friendship move in this weird direction: yes(even if you haven't had this type of thing advice is wanted)

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I like her, our kinks line up really well, we get along in the Vanilla world. I know this is more relationship based but because of the amount of kink involved Id like to come here for advise.

Do I worry about having ruined this friendship by asking her on a date and offering kinky-fuckery?