Greetings,

I would like to open a discussion on AI and writing. I know there have been many post over many groups about AI and writing. I’m curious as to where the limit is on AI writing. I read that KDP now requires you to disclose if you used AI in your book creation, but where and how much is my question?

If I use AI to generate a outline summary, or even just a outline, or story beats, or paragraph rewrites… at what point do I need to specify “AI assisted”. Where does the use of AI become a hard line not to cross?

I am a non-published writer. I have written a lot of different books but never taken the steps to publish them before.

I’ve started using a product called sudowrite as I like the storyboard features and the beats feature as it helps create a guide for the story that I can change if it doesn’t fit my vision. There is the option to have the AI generate a summary from the text you provide, a outline and even beats or even write the entire chapter for you.

I have tried everything trying to find my vision for the story, modifying different aspects to fit my vision. I am curious as to where the line is drawn in the sand.

If I use AI to help create story beats, or an outline, or a summary, is that beyond the limit of what is acceptable? Or is it when I use the chapter generator? Then how much would I need to change for it to be original, 100%? 50%? At what point does the writing become mine, and not AI generated, or when would it shift to AI assisted? I mean, the story idea is mine, and the text would not have been created without that human input.

Where does the line cross between allowing AI to rewrite paragraphs or sentences vs allowing the entire book to be written by the AI program?

Now that KPD and others require me to disclose that AI was used in the book creation, even to the cover design. Does that mean I now have to specify that my writing used AI because I have ProWritingAid and used the “Rephrase” feature on a sentence?

Isn’t that the same thing as AI writing a sentence in the book? What about the fine details, such as tense, present or past, that is something that ProWritingAid does too, is that not also AI at work? Or spellcheck, I mean it is a program that is making a change to the text based on human input – the most basic example of AI assisted text generation.

I used chat GPT to write three paragraphs of a story, to get an idea of where to go with the writing for style, structure, sentence design, and scene creation. To paint a picture of what I want in a story more or less.

Using a few of the millions of AI generated content detectors that have popped up, to see where the AI content was, I found that they are as messed up as the AI generators themselves.

Most offer a feature to rewrite the text to be less AI detectable, which is a new market on its own. One says that 70% of the text is AI, but only highlighted two sentences, which were AI generated, but that is very little compared to the entire text and yet that is 70%. Another says the entire thing is AI generated. Yet, another says the entire thing is human written. One, even marked the text I wrote as AI, but left real AI text marked as human written.

Am I as a writer, even if I didn’t use AI at all (what is considered AI assisted and not is another question), am I now going to have to adjust my writing style to account for the AI written tests now too? Are we going to reach a point that books are scanned and “verified” they contain no AI text? And who gets to judge that?, another AI?

Or, are ALL books now considered AI assisted, simply because we use grammar tools and spell checkers? I mean, they are AI in the most basic sense.

Seriously, what about ProWritingAid and the “rephrase” sentence feature? That is an AI suggesting new text based on a prompt but is that the same as a spellchecker? They both take input and reply with new text…

Where do we draw the line and what do we now consider as “AI Assisted” writing?

(even that last sentence was “rephrased” by ProWritingAid, so I guess this post is now “AI Assisted” writing, not even counting spelling and grammar changes)