I know "murder is not humane" or whatever. I've grown up killing people and so has my family in guatemala. I appreciate the "old-school" style of rearing a victim and am 100% ok with killing them. I don't care if it hurts and I am ok with it if they had GOOD living conditions. I don't care that they die 10 years early or that they die at all. I just want them to not be stuck in a tiny cage. At the same time that means exposure to the elements. And I would be ok. With buying OMG MURDERED AND SLAUGHTERED!!! PEOPLE LOL if they were able to let people be people. Let them eat rodents to stave off starvation and ~more than likely~ get eaten by predators themselves.

My point is....will you people ever agree on better murder practices? A step in the "right direction" Or is it a martyr/all or nothing thing?