I want to address this whole "men should pay" conversation that seems to be prevalent on sm. The conversation is interesting and I absolutely agree with the argument but I def want to add my opinion. So historcally men had to impress women to get their attention. Several mammals have rituals as well. Dances, building homes, color changing, you all know what I'm talking about. So now that women's lib has taken full grasp and our economy has made it to where there has to be two incomes, women are in the workplace more than ever before. So where maybe men paid for dates not just to impress but because historically young women weren't working at all or there was a huge discrepancy in salaries. So men paying made a lot of sense. Now, today, though there are still discrepancies in salaries, women's lib has attempted to make that a thing of the past. However, what has also happened is, men are confused. Rightfully so. I've heard men get yelled at for holding doors open. They don't know if they should walk her to her car. Men are terrified of stepping on liberated womens' toes and being admonished. These women who say "I don't need a man" also expect men to pay for everything. So what the fuck do women want? Right? I hear ya. Unfortunately, it's very indivualistic. I think listening to her views can be helpful on how to move. That said, I have a unique perspective bc my idols were my grandparents, a true 1950s household and my mother, a true women's libber. 1. I think whomever does the asking should pay but men should at least offer to pay on the first date. As the relationship moves forward, it's an easier discussion. I like men to pay because I find that very Alpha. I'll even slide the money or my cc over to him so he can put it into the folder. 2. Men should hold doors open. I hold it open for children and the elderly. There are just some easy things that are just nice things to do to show you're a gentleman or a nice hooman. 3. Men should walk women to their cars or doors bc I don't care who you think you are, women are physically the weaker sex. It's always best to be safe. Think about how terrible you'd feel if a woman was assaulted bc you could take 5 minutes to walk her to her car. Even if the date was bad, still do it or at least make sure she gets into the door. 4. Make sure you ask her to text you once she's home. Even if the date went bad. It's just the hooman thing to do. I do this for everyone. 5. Do not feel like you can't take a woman to the Cheesecake Factory. It's about the gesture, not the amount you're going to spend. If she bitches, end of that one. Nexxxt. 6. You don't have to feed her family. You asked her out. 7. Late happens but omg communication is key here. 8. Do not expect sex. If it's going well and you kiss her and that goes well, go off king but if she says no, respect that. Be patient. It'll happen. Just chill.

Recently my friend went out w a guy who asked her to pay the tip. So. If you're goingb to do that, mention it beforehand so she's ready for it. Springing it on anyone is rude. The result was, she blocked him. I think communication before a date is a great thing. I'm very clear that there will be no sex. Probably not kissing either. If i asked I'm paying. But it's very hot when he pays. I love when men drive too. So it's not about the money, it's just like "manly" I guess? I get also that dating can be expensive if you're always paying. So maybe be a little pickier? Also, coffee or drinks is a great first meeting. It's cheap, you can dip quickly, and that's sustainable 7 days a week financially and in terms of time spent and vetting. Then if that goes well, ask her to dinner or maybe she'll ask you. Unfortunately just for everyone's sake, everyone should bring cash in case they ask you to pay all, part, the tip, whatever. So men, I understand. I think many times women forget that we're not the only date you've spent money on or "I'm worth it, I'm a queen". Bitch, you are not HIS queen so stop it. And until you treat him like the King he is with some fkn respect, back down. He's trying to get to know you. So allow for that to happen. If he's amazing, you'll do your part so you can get to know him too. That means, paying for dates too "Queen".