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My Guide to Hobbying Last updated Dec 8, 2021
Hobbying is the name that many have given to seeing escorts. I canāt think of a better name so I use it. Iāve been seeing escorts since 2017. The term āproviderā is often used as a euphemism for escort so sometimes I use it. During that time, Iāve seen every kind of escort including Asian massage parlor girls to pornstars. For the most part itās been great with only a few negative experiences and none of them as bad as they could have been.
Types of Escorts I would classify escorts into a few categories: Massage parlors Youāve probably seen signs in front of buildings in many towns. There are a range of massage parlors from legit massages to AMPs (Asian Massage Parlor). Some MPs are rub and tugs only and some offer full service. Your Mileage May Vary (YMMV) greatly but sometimes itās most convenient. Prices are anywhere from $100-$300. These girls are typically not very clean so use a condom always.
Low-end providers These girls usually arenāt great looking or the services are lame. This is where you find many scammers as well. Cost is anywhere from $250-$400. Iāve seen plenty of them, but stay away now as I always feel like I wasted my money. Risk of STDs for sure.
High-end providers These girls are āProsā who do this for a living. They have websites, twitter accounts and even sometimes āassistantsā who book their appointments. This is the sweet spot of escorts as they are typically attractive, great bodies, know how to dress and provide good services. On the downside, they do charge more and an emerging trend is that they seem to act like āsugar babiesā who want gifts, etc. These girls are almost always clean so STD risk is much lower.
Pornstars You want to see them because you want the same experience as their videos. Often time this is the case, but Iāve been burned many times. The standard pornstar experience (PSE) is kissing, BBBJ (BJ with no condom), CBJ (sex with condom) and often covered Greek (anal). Many PSs will do BB (bareback) if you have an STD test in the last few days/week. Go to https://www.talenttestingservice.com to get tested in a way that PS will trust. Cost is about $300 if I recall. Costs for PS range from $1200-$3000 per hour depending on several factors. Iāve seen several PS and generally had a great time. Real PS are tested all of the time so STD risk is incredibly low.
Instagram models These are the ridiculously hot girls on IG who see guys for money. Sometimes the rates are insane because rich dudes are seeing them. Iāve never seen one.
Independents vs Agencies Escorts are either independent or managed by an agency (aka pimp but without the fur coat and drama. Also known as ābookerā). * Independents typically charge less because they keep all of the money. They are also typically lower volume. Often they are ālocal girlsā. They are also sometimes less reliable because they call the shots. To know if a girl is independent, just ask. * Agencies usually represent girls in a specific area. They manage their ads, social media and book all appointments. The girl typically doesnāt even know who she is seeing. First time that sheās interacted with you is at the appointment. Sometimes this is great, but some bookers can be very push or even intimidating.
Where to Find Providers There are many ways to find providers and basically all are online except just seeing a āMASSAGEā sign and taking a chance. These are the sites that Iāve used the most over the years. Some sites are for specific types of providers (massage vs escorts). There are many sites out there that āscrapeā legit sites and create ads there. You can tell because the ads are identical to the word.
- RubMaps.ch - good for finding MP reviews all over the country and has reviews. Requires membership to see reviews. These are reviews, not ads.
- RubRatings.com - Combination of mostly massage but some escorts. Surprisingly good quality here but youāll often find just MPs. Has reviews which is good.
- Eros.com - Gold standard of sites. Many girls post ads here. Doesnāt mean they are all legit or good, but itās old reliable.
- Tryst.link - New site where providers host their own microsites. Iāve never used it to find girls, but many are using it lately.
- AdultSearch.com - I donāt like this site, but some people do use it. I find the quality of girls to be low.
- HumaniPlex.com - old school site where providers can self-post. To me, itās like the MySpace of escorting as itās old and hard to use.
- FetLife.com - For people who are looking for kinks vs escorts. Usually not even a paid situation but more for people who have mutual interests.
- EroticMonkey.com - Iām still not sure if this is a legit site. I sometimes think itās a scraper site.
- TheEroticReview.com - GREAT way to get reviews about providers all over the world. You can get basic info for free, but you need to either pay for provide reviews to get an upgraded membership to see review details. Iāve used it many times to check out a girl before I see her. The details are great for determining if a girls is for you.
- P411.com - Short for Preferred411. Itās a āsafe placeā where guys have to pass some screening but then there is supposedly a lot of trust. You have to pay and provider personal info. Iāve personally never used it.
- BackPage - retired donāt use it if itās still around
- Switter - Twitter used to be THE place for escorts to advertise, but a law a few years ago made it more difficult so someone created the SW version of Twitter. Itās not very popular and probably Tryst is the next generation.
- Instagram - IG doesnāt allow explicit posts, but many high-end escorts, PS and IG āmodelsā post here. If you see a hot girl taking private plane tripes and in Dubai a lot, sheās probably an escort.
- Twitter - Since Twitter allows explicit ads, many pornstars and escorts have accounts here. The escorts are out there with their ads but searching for them can be hit or miss. See my lists below.
Agencies * PornCompanions.com - Agency managed by PS Trinity St. Clair for seeing pornstars. I find them very easy to use and reliable. You can literally just go on their page and browse the girls. Having said that, just because the agency is easy to use doesnāt mean the girl is worth it. * MyBeautifulVixens.com - Local agency in NJ. Some great girls for good prices. Incalls in NJ near Meadowlands * PerfectionModels.com - Another pornstar agency. I donāt like them as they are very pushy and have forced me to make appointments for just making an inquiry. * Lourdes - Apparently has good girls, but make you pay upfront as a retainer which they then use as you book appointments. Iāve never used them. * PamelaPeaks.com - formerly PS who has her own agency. Easy to use, bad website.
Verification Many providers, with the exception of Massage Parlors and Low End Escorts, will require some type of verification that you are 1) not law enforcement (LE) and 2) not on a blacklist. Typically ways to verify: * References - provide the contact info of providers youāve seen in the past year who verify that theyāve seen you. Not an option when youāre new to hobbying. * Identification - sending a photo of your ID with key info blacked out. * Employment - sending a link to your LinkedIn profile or contact info for your company. Theyāll try to verify that youāre not LE by verifying that you have a ārealā job. * TER Whitelist/P411 - these are specific to those sites. You can find out more by googling.
Sometimes you are asked to do some combination of these.
What Youāll Need * Email - get an email account that you only use for hobbying. I use ProtonMail as itās offshore and free. I donāt want my personal info being leaked. * Phone number - get a VOIP phone number for texting providers. I use Google Voice. I would never use my main personal phone for contacting escorts. * Ability to withdraw at least $500-$1500 cash from an ATM after hours
Red Flags * When you find a girl that you want to see, google her. If she claims to be a PS, look for her videos. There are plenty of girls out there claiming to be PS, but are either fake or very amateur. Amateurs arenāt bad, but they are hard to verify. * Google a girlās contact info and you should find her ads on other sites or even her website. If I donāt find any search results for a girl, I pass on them as Iām afraid they are a scam or law enforcement. * Girls who quote unbelievably low prices should be avoided * Avoid duos or doubles. They sound awesome, but both times that I went for it I got scammed. * I avoid girls who donāt verify in any way. Most of them are paranoid and will require verification. * Avoid giving deposits upfront unless they are a small amount.
Additional Info
1. Incalls vs Outcalls - Both have their pros and cons. Incall means you go to them whereas outcall means they come to you.
2. Get familiar with the acronyms (FS=full service aka sex, CBJ=covered blowjob aka with condom). Many providers prefer communicating in these acronyms for protection and forums certainly use them.
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