I'm going the best I can off my memory here, which isn't gonna be much

Game one:

It was a rts
The only definitive thing I can remember about is that there were (iirc) 3 factions, and one of them, instead of constructing buildings, beams them in from an orbital mothership thingy
It was really awesome, but for the love of god I can't find it anywhere

Second game:

I only played a demo of this, on one of those bootlegged CD's that had a hundred games on them (I can't even recall what you called those, twilights?)
It was a isometric RTS kind of deal
You played a hero, and you had to gain renown and recruit people to your party
Combat went in pausable real time, you pause, issue orders, and the battle continued in real time
The objective of the game was to beat the enemies in certain temples, each netting you some kidn of gem thingy
I also vaguely recall that people rode some kind of lizard thing

I sincerely hope someone can tell me the games from those vague descirptions