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Something about the Israel/Palestine situation is confusing me... can anyone help?
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There's a question that's been bugging me but I haven't been able to ask it anywhere, because the loudest discourse I've seen online is:

  • Pro houthi/hamas tankies
  • Pro-bombing-babies-to-oblivion, Israel-is-completely-innocent, Hamas-started-it-don't-ask-questions zionists.

There are some sources I follow who are more morally consistent, but most spaces I've seen online where I can actually contribute to discussions, are overrun by one of these two groups.

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So, the issue I have a question on - and I'd like to be clear I am in no way on Netanyahu's side. Like at all. - is I'm seeing a lot of posts on social media highlighting the destruction Israel's army is doing in Gaza. I've also seen posts about Lebanon and the bombings there (which haven't mentioned Hezbollah), and obviously stuff on Yemen.

And I guess the effect of this is, that if I just absorb (or even avoid) the information without examining it further, then the impression I passively form is that Israel are just bombing Gaza, without any defence or pushback, and represent 100% of the military force in essence. I've even seen posts saying that there are no armies in Gaza. That there are 170k Israeli soldiers against zero Gazan ones. That they have super sophisticated weapons and 'the other side' have none... You get the idea.

I have to consciously remind myself that there are two parties consenting to war. This does not have any impact on the collective punishment of the blockade, the mistreatment of civilians, the collapse of infrastructure, the AI-generation of targets and senseless destruction associated. It doesn't change the Nakba, the 75 year history of oppression, the killings in the West bank, the violent history of settler-colonialism.

I'm just someone who values accuracy and taking things as they come. Constantly updating narratives rather than strengthening pre-existing ones.

And any information about what Hamas are doing. Any framing of them as agents, who can make their own decisions. It's just gone from anything I'm seeing at the moment.

The closest I've seen was a video from an Arabic-language version of Al-Jazeera, shortly after October 7th, showing Hamas members training for Al-Asqa Flood in what appeared to be a celebratory sort of way. This was shared by someone I work with who (based off their social media shares) appears to have pro-Islamist sympathies:/

And then also reports from the magazine Al-Majalla (a Saudi-owned magazine based in London, which funnily enough published an article from our beloved Aleksandr Dugin about this situation) which don't exactly celebrate Hamas, but paint them in a different light than western outlets. Focus on their strengths. Present them as capable and more legitimate. That sort of thing.

Other than that, the only discussion I've seen about Hamas's military strategy has been from Israeli sources... which isn't exactly unbiased, for obvious reasons.

So, I'm confused. Because I'm not seeing any clear information about Hamas's role (if any) in Gaza's destruction - other than Oct 7th. I've seen videos of civilian infrastructure being bombed, and reports of there being evacuation orders. And I know logically that Hamas have weapons and presumably they must be getting fired at Israeli forces. But I just don't know anything about how they function, as a militia.

I was wondering if anyone in this sub has any information, or has even just thought about this too?

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