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Update on Gaslighting Husband Who Wont Admit Affair
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Here's the second thread which has a link to the original one. I recommend reading both because it's complicated. https://www.reddit.com/r/survivinginfidelity/comments/fex58p/bizarre_behavior_from_husband_i_need_clarity_as_i/

On 3/7 after he gave me the anniversary gift I had a conversation with him that night. I told him that if he wanted to reconcile that I needed several things:

  1. complete honesty about everything that happened
  2. all bank statements from account he opened for our business for which I do all the taxes and banking but have never been able to see (he closed the account)
  3. WhatsApp status (online or not)
  4. Google Location sharing
  5. phone pin

I told him to take a few days and think about it, to figure out what he wanted, and what he was able to do. 10 minutes later he packed up all of his clothes and left, leaving his wedding ring behind. Next day he shows up and says he's not going anywhere in a defiant tone. I tell him fine I can't force him to leave while we're still married and tell him I'm going to pick up the kids from my mom's house so we can tell the kids. This was Sunday. Now we kept a revolver in the house and out of an abundance of caution I had taken the bullets from the case and hidden them elsewhere Saturday morning. On Sunday when I get back home with the kids I go about my business doing chores. I noticved that the gun case was in a different spot on the closet shelf and that a box on my dresser had been opened. He was sitting on the sofa like he wanted to talk but I didn't say anything and kept on with my day and went out and had some coffee on the patio. When I come back in he's opening all the drawers in the living room. I knew he was looking for the bullets but he didn't say anything when I asked him what he was looking for. After about two hours of random searching through the house I was nervous enough to tell the kids to put their shoes on. He finally asked me where the bullets where at which point I hightailed it to the kids room and told them to get in the car. He starts dry eye crying about not wanting me to take the kids away from him. I tell him that he's freaking me out and ask him to go talk outside. He says that he would never hurt me or the kids, but that he doesn't want to live without the kids and shows me a suicide letter he wrote them. I calmly tell him that I would never separate him from his kids (which I had made clear to him before) and that he needs to think about them and not himself. That we can always work out an agreement so that he gets to spend time with them as much as he wants, blah blah. He keeps on dry crying (no tears). Finally hands me the gun which was in his pocket. I tell him that I want to take the kids to my moms because I don't feel comfortable with the situation and sleeping there that night and he goes into their room crying and hugging them and saying he doesn't want me to take them away. Which freaks them out (14 and 11) and then I have to tell them what is happening that we are separating. Because he wont let go of them I have no choice but to call the police. This was Sunday night. He gets baker acted and taken to the hospital.

He wont take my calls for the first few days and gets any information he needs by having a nurse call me. On Wednesday his psychologist calls me saying we need to do a family meeting. We meet and I agree that he can come back home if he behaves and cuts the silent treatment out, can be respectful, etc. The psychologist says we should do couples therapy and wants me to make an appointment right away for the next week. He gets out on Friday.

That night he buys me wine, I get drunk, he offers me weed, well, you can imagine what happened. My plan was for him to continue sleeping on the couch. Instead Friday night after I go to sleep he comes in a few hours into the night and asks me if he can sleep in our bed. I was so out of it I said yes. Next morning he says he just wants to hug me and I say I don't think it's a good idea. He says no sex, just hugging and me being the idiot that I am I give in. We end up having sex. He starts acting like everything is ok, being supper nice. I'm pretty sure the whole wine and weed where done on purpose to get me in a drunk state so he could get back in bed. He knows sex is my weak spot.

Tuesday we have our first couples therapy which is mostly just intake and telling our sides of the story. I tell mine and he tells his and he keeps on maintaining that nothing happened. I say that I want our marriage to work out but that I feel that if I don't get what I asked for all the couples counseling in the world is not going to help. The therapists asks us each why we want to save the marriage and what we want out of counseling. He says that he loves me and he wants to feel that he is trusted. I said that I needed to be able to trust again. So in the end she said that we had a bump in the road, a big one, but that it was not insurmountable. I'm not so sure. I feel like I had all this determination to stand my ground and I was ok when he packed up and left. And now he's back home and it's like everything is back to the way it was. He said after therapy that he was not going to let me slip away (or something like that) but again, there has been no admission of anything on his part.

I'm going to give this therapy my best and I hope that he can be honest as times progresses but I just don't know at this point. I love him and I really want this to work but I'm so afraid that this is just more fake niceness on his part and he's not really wanting to change. He hasn't mentioned any of the stuff I asked for except in the couples counseling to say that it felt excessive and intrusive. I'm so fucking tired.

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I don't want to deal with her anymore. Besides, I think they are close enough that he has a good hold on her and she's not going to crack. She's always going to check in with him first.

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I don't know that he will try that but we'll see. I'm going to pick up the bed now and inflate it and leave it there. I wont say anything but if he comes to sleep in our bed I'll just get up and go sleep there.

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The gun is gone. I got rid of it while he was in the hospital. He never threatened me or the kids, and I while I know this situations are tricky, I don't think he really meant to kill himself last time. He had the gun all he needed to do was go out and buy the bullets if he was serious about it. I honestly think it was a last ditch effort to get me to back down. Since he's not respecting my boundaries I already ordered an inflatable bed to put in the back room. If he wont go there then I will. I don't want to give him any chances to try to butter me up. I get the sense that he's sleeping in bed as a big old fuck you to me, but I don't want to take any chances. That's what he did last time he came back. THe night he returned from the hospital he brought me wine, we smoked weed and in the middle of the night new snuck into bed and the next morning asked me to hug him and the rest went downhill. I don't want that to even a remote possibility.

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Nope. I'm not doing that. I already requested that at the beginning of our couples therapy. I'm not going to keep on asking for the truth over and over. I'm done. I confronted him yesterday with the information about the Key West stay and the garage and before I even mentioned it I said I'm not saying the following as an ultimatum, I'm saying it because I still love you and I want to give you a chance to do the right thing. And he flat out denied it and said that I was looking for stuff because I don't love him anymore. I'm not going throught that again. He had his chance when he came back after the hospital, AFTER I had already begged him to come clean. So I've already done all that, I've told him I can forgive you if you come clean. But now I found a smoking gun and even then I STILL gave him another chance to come clean, and he maintains that I'm imagining stuff??? Nope, nope, nope.

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Well, things are certainly getting interesting. All the niceness of earlier today and yesterday are pooof gone. I told him that I would be sleeping in the bedroom and he said me too. I said no you have the bed in the back. He said, no you can sleep there. I told him that eventually this would remain my home once he moves out and he said its my home now and I bought the furniture (in our bedroom). YOu bought the airbed so you can go sleep there. I said why do you have to make this difficult we have to live together until you move out and he was like oh so youre saying that we're over. And I said yes to which he asked if I wanted him to move out and I said no not now things are shitty but he said ok if we're over I have nothing else to talk about, I'm sleeping in my bed and you can sleep on the floor or wherever you want.

At least he's showing his true colors. I was going to hold off until after this whole coronavirus crap dies down to start divorce proceedings but I think the sooner I start the better. I'll wait a week and see if he calms down and acts more rationally but otherwise I'm done with being the nice one.

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which is why I'm telling him today that the bed in the bad is for him. And I'm glad that you mention that his priority is staying with the kids. I don't think for a second he really cares about me as a woman. I'm an extension of him and the way he wants to portray himself to others. A great family man and husband, and on the side hidden from view he gets to do all his vices (oxycodone, random pills at bars, going to strip clubs, multiple social accounts that I can't follow but that he uses for porn and such). I dont really care about the last two but they show a pattern of him living a double life. I saw a video today on youtube about the RAT THEORY and narcissists and wow did it open my eyes to the sort of person my husband is. Here's the video in case anyone is interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nEyudkMBno

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Well, he looked genuinely terrified when I came home from Walmart with the bed but didnt say anything. He did end up going to watch tv in our bedroom insanely early. He normally loves to fall asleep on the couch watching tv until midnight or later. But last night he moved to the bedroom at a quarter to 9. When I walked in and asked why he had gone to bed so early since he normally stays our in the living room until late he said bc he was cold. So I hung out in the living room and then went and told him I'd be going to sleep and got my pillow and cover and when to the back room. But I plan on telling him early today that I will be sleeping in our bedroom. He actually got up this morning as I was getting ready to work and said good morning when I went into the bedroom to get my clothes, sat down and watched the news and drank coffee with me and discussed some things we needed to do bank wise. It's very unusual for him to act this way bc normally he would be giving me the silent treatment.

I talked to him today and asked him if he had thought about what I had asked for before. He didn’t seem pleased but he agreed to show me the statements. We went right away and there was nothing out of the ordinary. I’m not saying that I buy everything about nothing having happened, but it doesn’t look like he was using the account to keep the other woman. I think it’s a step in the right direction, though he still doesn’t get how his lying about small details and not showing me the account added to my suspicions. We’ll see how things go from here, but I’m glad that I stood my ground.

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