Hi all,

For those of you who may know me, I'm back to playing Summoners War!

For those that don't, I made several guides in the past (most of which are outdated after 2A and B12 was introduced), one of which was the p2w guide found here.

Essentially I attempted to convert as many items in each package into crystals as possible. While some of the packs in that guide have actually changed (the Intermediate Pack, for instance, keeps getting spammed on my "returning" account and it's definitely different from what it was), the relative value of items that can be contained in a pack have not. Or at least not enough to worry about too much.

A note to mobile users: I use colored text in this guide a little bit, the only link I have is the one above, if anything else looks like a link that doesn't take you anywhere: that is why. :)

TL;DR: Here are the total pack values:

TO BE CLEAR:

These are objectively the best values in packs I have personally ever seen. Sure, I've been missing for two years, but it's rare to even see a pack go above 100 Crystals per Dollar, and the $100 one we have at over 250 per dollar. 7 Devils is insane.

If they released a pack that had better value than these a year ago or so, I'd be shocked. The Spring packs come close (the $5 Spring pack is actually 175 crystals per $), but these packs are actually "nuts" if you're a spender.

If you were ever "saving up" for high-impact spending on the game, now is probably the time to do so. But don't feel like you need to if you want to remain f2p, obviously. Spending - unless you can do it in the 10s of thousands - honestly doesn't push your progress as far as you think it does. I spend because I consider it an entertainment expense and budget accordingly. If it starts to feel like an addiction I separate myself from it. :)

Even the Welcome Back packs you get offered for leaving the game for a month are worse value than these packs.

INDIVIDUAL VALUES OF EACH ITEM

Feel free to skip this (very large) section entirely if you just...don't care. This is for people that enjoy a more deep-dive into "why". :)

Quick Explanation on Items I Know Will be Controversial or Confusing:

• Summoning Stones: These have such a high value because 'sniping' a targeted nat4/5 has huge value. If you compare the relative probabilities per summon, you're 5x more likely to get a targeted nat4 through summoning stones (or at least you were when I did the math two years ago, it's likely even higher now). They're valued at nearly 3x a Mystic, I believe my predecessor did the math on it.

• Legendary and Transcendence Scrolls: The math on this is quite complex, and is explained in the post linked above in full detail. Read there if you want to know more. Essentially parsing out nat3 summons from Legendary and nat4 summons from Transcendence is more complicated than just "The expected probability of obtaining a nat5".

• L/D Scroll: If you go by the in-game cost of obtaining an LD, it's about 700 crystals, but that ends up being higher than a Legendary Scroll, so after extensive discussion with the community, we came up with "half the value of a Legendary Scroll" and called it a day, and since we get about double the LD scrolls than Legendaries from rewards and whatnot (and in packs containing both quite often) it makes sense.

• Devilmon: LOTS of economic oddities with this item. The more whale-ish you are, the more value it has (because the more nat5s you have waiting for skill ups). F2P can almost fully skill up a nat5 the moment they get them with free devils due to how long it takes, on average, to obtain a nat5 as f2p. P2W players have a much harder time skilling up. 500 and 1000 are arbitrary numbers, some players claim even 2000 isn't enough of a value for it.

• 6* Runes: Depending on how much RNG is "removed" from the Rune (type, number, main stat, sub stats, etc.), it has more and more value. 600 was the rough equivalent back when B10's were the highest. B12 RNG isn't actually THAT much higher (due to much lower Legendary chance to offset guaranteed 6* runes), so I'm too lazy to do the math, it might be like 550 now, or so.

• Reapp: hard to value. Energy cost in Rifts is like 66 crystals, but they're limited just like devils are. You're also limited by how many runes you need to reapp. If you don't really have good targets, they have lower value. 100 would be on the low end for a casual gamer. Someone grinding dungeons hardcore all day long will value them much higher, as high as 1700 crystals (if they're looking for a specific rune type/main stat combo, for instance). I chose the low end.

• 7th Anniversary Scroll: Basically a better SS summon, and is the most accurate representation. I think everyone will agree these have insane value, WAY more than a regular Mystic. Roughly 3x the value seems decent to me.

  • IF you only value the Anniversary Scrolls at the base Mystic Scroll value instead (say you have every monster you need, for instance), then pack values go way down (though they're still very high compared to most other packs in the game):
  • Pack 1: 121 Crystals / $
  • Pack 2: 94 Crystals / $
  • Pack 3: 186 Crystals / $
  • Shop Pack: 74 Crystals / $

Some of the more arbitrary values (SS, Devils, LD) create a subjective mess in the total value. I believe these are very close to a true value, though, as I have had many conversations with many people - dolphins and whales alike - and these seem to be the more agreed-upon values. I've taken a more-or-less dolphin approach to these for several reasons:

• If you're a whale you're gonna buy. It doesn't matter what the respective values are, here.

• Dolphins will be the ones wanting good bang for buck and will care about the nitty gritty.

• Dolphins also represent a larger portion of the community than whales.