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Sticking point with following up- Help a brother out
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I have studied seduction for a while- most of my interactions go well, till i get in a stalemate. I don't know if I am being impatient, or making the wrong moves with the follow up.

Here is an example, tell me what i am doing wrong. In this example, my goal is catching a work out with a female coworker, maybe fooling around, making a friend, it is too early to tell and I am the type of dude that approaches with lots of options.. I don't need the girl to date me, maybe we could hang out as friends or fuck if the energy is right.

Once i am in the situation, i feel the energy and direct the interaction, but i don't force shit. She just got out of a relationship, but white knighting and saying shit like "let me be your nigga" type shit isn't my vibe, and i didn't want to buy into that frame. but, she likes working out and dick so i'm gonna try to hang out with her and see where things go

i invite her to catch a workout over the holidays (break from work). Often, i think i am not pushy enough, but at the same time, i'm not gonna hype the workout like a car salesman, she knows i'm about my business- i run the gym at work and have put tons of specialty, niche equipment in it (dumbbells over 140, belt squat, etc.)

  1. I am about to leave my job, so i gave myself permission to shit where i eat.
  2. Flirty coworker (catch her looking at me in meetings, she turns away, has a sexy voice) "loves" working out, tells me all the lingo for gym stuff (i manage gym at job, that's what brought topic up). I'm like bet, I tell her I'll show her the gym if she thinks she can handle it (this was a tease about her using her apartment gym and weights are too light)
  3. My goal is hitting a workout together, I'm not gonna be that blunt, so I tell her I am busy this week, but next week let's catch a workout, i am down. This communicates abundance, lack of pressure, i got shit going on in my life (i actually do- i have just learned the community lingo, but no cap i'll miss a shift for ass time)
  4. I give her my email and number- this may sound weird, but I am not trying to look like a horn dog at work, but I trying to look professional
  5. She comes to my cubicle, tells me how excited she is, good energy, all about working out. I told her contact me during the next week so we could catch a workout (this is over holidays)
  6. Don't here anything from her, ok, something came up.

Now, here is my sticking point!!

  1. Here I would not know if i should even talk to her again. I felt like she blew me off and some PUA's will say 2 chances, then FDB.

Also, note, this is one of the more attractive females at work so she gets a lot of attention. I don't think staying at my cubicle is gonna get me anywhere, and this is a weakness i have- giving up if i don't get what i want at first, but I wait till i got something strategic to say.

8.Finally, the right idea came to my head. I didn't want to supplicate (it would be a weird energy to be like aw man, you misssed the workout, i offered you a dank workout (she complains about her apartment gym having junk equipment) my feelings were hurt, blah, blah, blah.

I actually say shit like this to women i know and get the best reactions. I will say shit like "i'm so glad you finally called me back, i was just about to self harm" or shit like "jeez, i finally thought we were cool, now you do me like that? or "do i smell bad?" the girls who know me know i am a smartass, and the simp/self-depracating shit is funny and it gets the point across, so i don't seem like a butthurt nigga. i play it off funny and get the point ("wtf girl, you gonna do a nigga like that?") across.

it's saying the type of stuff girls think when they mad cause you didn't call back soon enough, they low key hurt, and you put the crazy, childish shit in words and flip it around on them."

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?

I don't know the work chick long enough to call her out on missing the workout with me, so I told her "man, you tell me all these terms, all these goals? i certainly hope you didn't just memorize all that" this is a qualifier/push pull. she had a bunch of excuses ( i used apartment gym, i smell when i don't workout here)

It took me a couple days to come up with some form of follow up, but i used a qualifier and push/pull for the follow up. it would stand out from the other beta male orbiter coworker she hates who brings her coffee all the time.

I could see myself having fun with this chick, but i need advice on the follow up. I feel like this is where I get myself in an okey doke, and maybe the younger women basically need the guy do all the heavy lifting?

I just don't know here, cause the women i meet and hang out with will be engaged and excited (i really don't push ppl, anyone to do something they don't want), so if they're not interested cool. but i also wonder if there is more i can do to push these interactions forward. people who hang out with me have tons of fun (i do all types of shit-travel, drive sports cars/trucks, read, smoke, go boating). But, i never brag about any of my shit. My approach has been getting info on the girl then, "hey you like this, why don't we make shit happen?" I got all this shit to offer but i get weird on the follow up. Do the girls need reminders?

Thanks for reading.

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