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It says some men and some women are different.
Edit to add: are men all inherently the same as one another? Are women? What person is inherently the same as another?
Thatâs not what proof means⌠I guess I expecting proof for such a wild claim is about as ridiculous as believing it. Itâs okay, we didnât all absorb critical thinking in school.
I just think you lost the plot. Does this study prove that all men are inherently different from all women? Simple yes or no and we see where we stand.
It depends on what your definition of barely is. Studies have found that anywhere from 60 to 80% of heterosexual women fake orgasms with their partners.
Does this article prove that all men are inherently different from all women? There are no women in this study who have multiple sex partners after 50? Because thatâs what âinherently differentâ means. The fact that there is even one man who is shorter than any woman proves that men are not inherently taller than women, because there is at least one man for which that isnât the case.
You really seem to be arguing with someone else because it doesnât seem like youâre even reading what Iâm saying or responding to. What do you think my argument is?
A single man who is shorter than a women is proof that men arenât all inherently taller than women. There is not macro or micro levels, because we are talking about black and white statements. All or none.
The fact that most men are taller than most women does not equate to men and women being inherently different, because there are men who are shorter than women. To say this fact makes the two sexes inherently different means there is no case in which any men are shorter than women. Again, a likelihood is not an absolute. Especially in the case of this articles study.
I do understand whatâs being discussed, I donât think you understand what Iâm arguing against. Iâm not arguing that there are arenât statistical averages, Iâm saying we shouldnât take those averages as inherent law and to make absolute statements, especially when itâs grouping every person of a specific sex to a specific action. Thatâs, like, the whole point of science.
Youâre example doesnât fit into what Iâm arguing against because the point of the original comment is all men and all women are inherently different, which isnât even the shown in this article because some women do keep up a sexual life after 50 and some men donât. Iâm not saying women arenât more likely to lose sex drive after 50, Iâm saying thats not evidence that men and women are inherently different because there are women who still seek out multiple partners later in life.
You canât say any study shows that all men act one way and all women act differently, because there will always be those individuals who cross over in one way or another. You can say some men are different than some women, but not all, because there are individuals who donât fit into those statistics. They donât just disappear because you want to look at a âmacro levelâ. And you should not ignore or deny them by making absolute statements. Thatâs not science. I literally donât know how else I could break it down for you to understand because you really donât seem to be getting it.
Do you even remember the context of my statements? Do you think Iâm arguing with the article? Do you know what âinherently differentâ means? My posts were response to one person trying to use this article to make a blanket statement about men and women being in their little boxes. Do you think this article is proof that all men are inherently different from all women?
So, every man is inherently the same then? There are no men who are the same height as a woman?
Iâm not commenting on the individual. Iâm commenting on using this study to say a blanket statement like âall men are inherently different than all womenâ. This study doesnât show that in any way. A likelihood is not a law.
Iâm also not saying that we shouldnât do studies based on sex, and the likelihood for differences in the sexes. But one should not say that the differences noted in these studies blankety means that the whole of men are different than the whole of women. That statement is only meant to divide the sexes and likely to spread transphobic ideas as well. No progress is made by stating that every man is one way and every women is another and never the Twain shall meet, which was the point of the original comment.
Again, Iâm not saying that men arenât more likely to be taller than a women, but some men arenât, and therefore men arenât inherently different than women in that way. Nor does, in my view, this study prove that all men are inherently different from all women on a sexual level. Iâm not talking about averages, Iâm talking about absolutes. Donât use studies like these to make absolute statements. There are no absolute truths in science, it is not a religion or an ideology. It is an experimental methodology.
Does the fact that men are likely to be taller than women make men and women inherently different? There arenât women taller than most men? Or men shorter than most women?
We can take notes of likelihood, but we shouldnât use them to make absolute statements. Especially when itâs only to further divide people.
You shouldnt go on a science sub and say that any of these studies are definitive proof that all men and all women are inherently different. That is bad scientific processing.
Are all men inherently the same?
Edit to clarify: do these studies show that all men are inherently the same? Or that all women are inherently the same? There are no women who continue to want sex after 50? And there are no men who lose sex drive after 50? There are no people whose sex drive doesnât change as the age? Just because studies show some men are more likely to be sexually active longer doesnât mean that men and women are inherently different. Again, at least not any more than any two people are inherently different. There are horny old women and prudish young men. Life is a spectrum and we need to stop seeking out ways to further divide from one another.
They donât need to be the same, Iâm specifically saying that there are no two people who are inherently the same, but I donât think men and women are more inherently different than any person is inherently different from any other person. Sweeping generalizations like that (all men and all women are inherently different), especially based off of evidence like this, are only seeking to keep distancing us from one another. We are trying to make aliens and enemies out of one another and these viewpoints only further than division.
Edit to add: ask yourself the same question, why is it so important to you that men and women are inherently different?
Go further down the thread⌠what does it sayâŚ
Its literally their next response in the threadâŚ
Yes they did⌠you just didnât look at that reply from them⌠go back through my thread with the original commenter. They said âall men are different from all womenâ
You just lost the plot and are arguing to argue.
I didnât ask for your opinion. You made a statement, I refuted it with a statement of my own, you doubled down and claimed your statement was based on âthe scienceâ and I asked you for proof.
Depends on the study, but most that I have read determine itâs a majority of their sexual interactions.
So we agree then. You came in to an argument I was having with someone else and started giving me the third degree about something I wasnât saying. I wasnât arguing with you or the study, I was arguing with someone who did say that this study proves all men are inherently different from all women. Youâre just yelling to yell.
They arenât in this article. Itâs only talking about the one survey, so thatâs what we are talking about.
Some groups of men are different than some groups of women in this specific case. It doesnât take lesbians or bi women into account. Itâs one study of 5000 people in one country. That is not enough evidence to say men and women are inherently different, at least no more âinherently differentâ than any person is from any other person.
This doesnât show that tho⌠this shows that some men are different than some women. Do all women across the board lose their sex drive after their 50s? Do all gay and bisexual men continue seeking multiple parters later in life?
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