I've used 4F-MPH as an ADHD med substitute for 5 years the recent product pushed lately has/have been a terrible alternative to the original 4F-MPH HCL I got 2-3 years ago that was pure white/crystalline powdered no rocks, bump ready, line was too heavy when not weighed (I always weighed out 20mg bumps of the old stuff it was hard hitting due to being only the 2 D-enantiomers and too much hit like a max dose 72mg concerta without a tolerance at 30mg and damn near matched the timing without the second "boost" of a concerta pill stuff was cheaper and better than ritalin by a long shot. I just noticed a (rather large contender in the market)supplier/manufacturer has labeled it as HCL instead of ACETATE. No I Don't work for them nor do I give out sources but I'm really interested in checking this stuff out, for science quite literally as I want to test a theory of mine using the 2 different products.

Has anyone's 4F looked different? Not like unmixed plaster powder with tan chalk dust in it? I'll report on it Saturday when my product comes in for testing (reagent, overall weight etc.) the most recent product has been Acetate which I believe they've been using extra strength acetic acid to stabilize it for sale vs hydrochloric acid from free base which I have a theory why acetate wouldn't work as well of HCL but I'm no chemist so I'll pass on embarrassing myself lol.