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Property listed for $2.9m. Comp values are $1.7-1.9m. We waited 4 months - and made an offer of $1.7m. Seller's agent is using bad comps (directly comparing 100 acre properties to this 50 acre property). We did not receive a response from the sellers. What are the next steps?
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We are looking at a pretty unique property: 30-50 acres with an established home and stables.
There are 3-4 comps sold each year that are close-ish to this piece of property. And these typically take 6-12 months to sell. (One of the comps is a direct neighbor to this property - it shares the east property line - and sold about 6 months ago)
If we buy this, it would be a very long-term investment. (20 years)
This property is listed at $2.9m. We looked pretty hard at the comps. Comps are coming in right around the $1.7-1.9m mark.
Because of the massive discrepancy in list value to comp value, we waited until last week to go see the property/make an offer. We wanted to let it sit on the market for a bit before making a potentially "low ball" offer.
We saw it last week and made an offer of $1.7m - justifying it with an extensive list of comps.
We talked with the seller's agent - and were basically told that the comps we used weren't close - but the seller's agent couldn't show any comps that we felt were reasonable (he showed a 100 acre property that sold for 2.7m - as a direct comp for this 50 acre property / He also showed an 11,000 sq ft mansion - and compared it to this 4,000 sq ft house).
We feel like the seller's agent may have misrepresented the value of this farm to the sellers.
We did not get a response to our offer.
We would pay over comp value for this property - and just front the difference should it appraise lower (within reason). I am thinking our max is right around the $2m mark.
What are our next steps?
Do we let it sit for another 4 months - and then resubmit our offer?
Do we submit our absolute max now (2m)? Or is this still such a lowball that it won't make a difference?
Am I missing something here?
Is this just a lost cause?
The property was listed for sale about a month after the prior owner passed away. It is being sold as part of the estate.
You never know who owns it. You don’t know if they are just testing the market or not. You never know what their motivation is. It is likely a realtor that doesn’t want to present an offer 30% less than they convinced the seller they could get. Most areas I believe a realtor can demand a written response to an offer but it’s probably not worth it. If they wanted to move or counter at that price they would. I would watch for price drops or look at another property.
Note - a good investment is usually purchased around 30% of ARV from what I see day to day and I see a lot of activity in what I do. It’s just a rough number. We are also in a softening market so the actual ARV could be a lot lower on high end properties in 6 months.
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