SHTF scenario where all government services are down with no repair in sight. No law, Water, electricity etc. Looking like a true long term problem that is basically global. A complete reset that takes us all back to the early 1900’s Remember within 3 days people are desperate and 7 they are killing their neighbors for tuna. Most people have “go bags” and plan to leave the cities as it’s pretty well established that Gangs would take over and take everything. So millions of people go to the mountains for safety and to kill every wild animal they find and then each other so bug out is not really an option unless you have a defensive spot for at least the first 30 days anyway. So the 1st wave I feel like 60-70% of the population dies within that 1st month or two. Either by environmental factors or by each other. Then those that have “gray manned” in the city with their food and water supply have to start poking their head out as supplies are running thin. This is what separates the survivors and the victims. Those gray men that are willing to kill other grey men or team up which basically you start a gang that steals others stuff. That 2nd to 3rd month they’ve out lasted the majority and will likely survive no matter what as long as they’ve figured out sustainable food/water.

***Edit this post is just for conversation. No need to feel superior or put anyone down. I don’t pretend this is something I see happening or plan for.

***2nd edit. Thanks for the not insulting totally civil conversation for fun that precisely 2 of you contributed to. You are all real fun. So glad I came here to hang out for a bit. One of you even brought up some porn??! Weird