Bernouts got mad whenever I pointed out that the election wasn't Clinton vs Trump, it was Liberal Supreme Court vs Regressive Supreme Court.

But they thought it was more important to throw LGBTQ folks under the bus to protest-punch Democrats over college costs or whatever.

If progressives could game-theory things out more than one layer deep you'd understand.

Good intentions can lead to bad outcomes if you don't bother to stop and think.

Bro you said Democrats had control like it wasn't a complete bullshit Republican talking point.

Democrats haven't had control of the government but for 20 days in your entire life. Let that Republican psyop die, please.

Democrats had obstruction-proof control of all three branches (with a supermajority in the legislative) for 20 working days in the last few decades, and they used that time to pass the ACA. Progressives literally couldn't have done any better.

If you want progress, vote Democrat down ballot across the country.

And yet, when moderate Dems said "vote for the Supreme Court" progressives are the ones who responded by torching abortion in their tantrum over college costs.

Seems like moderate Dems understood the second- and third-order effects of the election while progressives barely understood the surface.

Oh for sure. 2016 was a vote to retain abortion rights and progressives failed absolutely.

But remember, during Trump's first term Republicans started floating the idea that "Being LGBTQ in front of children should be a sex crime", and in other conversations started promoting the idea that "sex crimes involving children should be death penalty offenses". Hopefully progressives can put 2 and 2 together this election instead of Thanos snapping trans people to... *checks notes* punish Biden over what Israel is doing? I guess?

Surely, you aren't trying to say that because he said "sex crimes involving children should be death penalty offenses" he was slighting the LGBT community?

At the same time, Republicans are going around saying "being LGBTQ in front of children should be a sex crime". It's clear to me what they want to do with those two statements combined, but you're welcome to interpret it differently.

The public opinion at the time was very pro-LGBT

Ehhh... where? In the Tenderloin? I'll give you that Republicans felt like they had to keep quiet about LGB people, but anti-trans hate has been ramping up for over a decade. Republicans are cryptofascists -they never stop trying to hurt marginalized people, they just get better at doing it quietly. This quote from Barry Goldwater, architect of modern Republican party strategy, lays it out in plain English:

You start out in 1954 by saying, “N----r, n----r, n----r.” By 1968 you can’t say “n----r”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N----r, n----r.”

They're not going to come out and say "kill the gays" anymore. You have to look out for the quiet legal workings in the background. Trump may not have given off hints, but the Republican party has been building toward this for a very long time.

Now you're just making things up, lol. I hope you survive long enough to grow out of your disastrous political beliefs and inability to grasp basic strategy.

I forgive you for getting my bodily autonomy revoked, but please try and do better.

You live in fantasy land. I hoped that one Trump presidency was enough to teach people pragmatic political strategy, but I guess not. I sincerely hope you live long enough to learn better.

Hillary won the popular vote despite last-minute election interference by the FBI, Trump colluding with Russia, and Bernouts sitting out the election. She was an excellent candidate, even for that election.

Look at any of the political identity polls done in the last few years. Offline, progressives are a very, very small portion of the US. Single-digit percentage, at best. Most Democrats, Independents, and Republicans identify as "moderate" to "conservative", with a smaller amount identifying as "liberal" and no measurable amount identifying as "progressive". Liberals and progressives are growing with a predictable trendline, but that's something to look forward to years in the future. Right now we have to work with a country that is unfortunately quite conservative -especially when you take the Senate and Electoral College into account.

When progressives are dissatisfied with a moderate Democrat candidate, we only need to convince a few tens of thousands of people to hold their noses. If they sit out, that leaves a gap of a few tens of thousands to fill from independents etc. It's not ideal, but it's mathematically possible.

When moderates and conservatives are dissatisfied with a progressive candidate, we will need to convince tens of millions to hold their noses. If they sit out, we will have a gap of tens of millions of voters. Filling that gap is not mathematically possible. We know that there aren't enough progressives waiting in the wings to make up that difference.

If you want to fix the Supreme Court, you need to give Democrats a supermajority. A Progressive in the White House will hit the same legal obstructions that Democrats have for the last few decades. Extralegal solutions like Biden "Steal Team Sixing" Supreme Court judges will cause most of moderate and conservative US to rise up in violence against what they will see as an actual coup. It's just not going to happen. Republicans are Weimar Germany-ing their way towards fascism, but they're doing it quietly and legally. That's how cryptofascism works.

In Trump's first term, Republicans started floating the idea that "being LGBTQ in front of children should be a sex crime", and also started separately pushing the idea that "sex crimes involving children should be punishable by death". Hopefully you and your fellows can put 2 and 2 together this time and vote for the Supreme Court down the entire ballot, everywhere in the country.

People don't vote for policies, they vote for candidates. They pick their candidate largely based on the label matching their own label, and avoid labels they have been programmed to avoid.

Most conservatives support abortion and gun control in some forms, and yet conservative candidates who don't match those positions keep getting elected by conservative voters. Think about that for a while. Learn that lesson.

If you think I'm not also on the hit list for white conservatives, I don't know what to tell you. Please vote strategically. I've been trying to stop them from killing you for decades, but sitting out the 2016 election sure set my efforts back.