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Had to got to Exeter for a work thing today
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You want to know the best thing about Exeter? How good it makes Plymouth look in comparison.

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Can’t tell if this is a joke post or not. Exeter isn’t perfect but I think they have a lot of things right that Plymouth continues to miss. - Greater variety of venues for live events - lively and picturesque shopping centre with actual shops not just empty shop front and bargain basement crap - Medieval architecture still sympathetically saved and integrated into the city. - Clever use of riverside spaces for watersports activities rather than just vandalised Victorian architecture.

It’s not perfect and some of their undercover “mall” areas are hideous, but that much worse than Plymouth? I don’t think so. Plymouth city council and the city centre company need to work much bloody harder to make our city centre somewhere desirable to visit without it just being a series of big shitty boxes owned by British Land.

Oh, and the buses are better and the parking more reasonable.

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It’s not just about music, live events in general. Definitely a greater diversity of events at the Phoenix, Corn Exchange and Northcott for a start. Bigger bands, more comedy, etc. Plymouth edges it with theatre of course because Theatre Royal made some very clever decisions with TR2. But Pavilions is a waste of space and the sound there is always terrible as well.

Princesshay is a much nicer shopping area. Not my kind of shops, but if you’re looking for higher end brand stuff, you’d have to go at least to Bristol for that otherwise. I don’t understand why Plymouth just keeps making wider grey paved areas and then not doing anything useful with them? The top of town is now looking almost as bad as the bottom of town for empty shopfronts and the fact that Debenhams remains shut and is just an eyesore is depressing. I don’t pretend to know all of the side roads and stuff in Exeter, and a lot of the ones lower down towards the Alphington roundabout are 50s nasty, but then Plymouth city centre is too. Just because it’s built from bath stone doesn’t change the fact that they’re all small square stores that are frequently empty and in need of repair.

There are some lovely places along the Barbican and RWY that make the coastal areas feel quite nice, but if you’re talking about a sense of civic pride, I don’t think you can hand on heart say that Plymouth has made good decisions there. Anything that has been done (and it’s small stuff) has been done with private enterprise.

Plymouth has the potential to be a far better city but feels constantly bogged down by poor planning, short sighted designs and a constant lack of ambition. Why is it that we have THREE carbuncle award nominated buildings in the city centre?! The carbuncle awards are for the ugliest buildings in the country.

As for the people, I love my janners wholeheartedly, and I’m proud of our working class heritage and spirit, but Exeter being a medieval city with an abbey and a very old university is always going to have that sort of provenance. We’ve had pirates, sailors, slavers and bastards down here.

I’m not trying to say that Plymouth is a shithole. You look at any city in the UK and you could find enough parts of it to say that, but I’m saying that if we have civic pride in our city, we should hold it to a higher standard and want it to be better. It could be so much more.

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