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Rant: Aggressively monogamous people are actually bonkers
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with being monogamous, and I understand why it works for a majority of people. But the folks who are like monogamous x10 to the point they are denying normal human feelings is so crazy to me. There was a Reddit post recently where a guy talked about his wife's chiropractor being good looking and when one of her friends hooked up with her massage therapist she then privately fantasized about the chiropractor with this friend (the way you do with friends that is very unserious) without ever acting on it and the husband snooped on the messages because he assumed she'd want to cheat after hearing her friends story. Majority of commenters said she was EMOTIONALLY CHEATING because she dared be attracted to someone else and have fantasies she talked about which is completely normal even in a committed relationship. They acted like she should have immediately stopped seeing him once she found out he was hot as if attractive people can't exist in your life at all if you're in a relationship. Like humans don't shut off our sexuality when we're monogamous you're gonna crush on other people and have fantasies sometimes. But rather than talk about it which is the healthy thing to do and even maybe include it in the bedroom, extremist monogs would rather pretend it doesn't happen and if it does you're not loyal. I just really can't understand being that insecure and possessive. Wild.

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Jesus christ. And of course it was a woman getting shit on cause the double standard is also rampant. Referring to the post I mentioned, men go to strip clubs, Hooters, etc. to see and get touched by hot women and they definitely talk about wanting to fuck them with their friends but ain't no one ever gonna call that emotionally cheating I guarantee. And if a guy passed out with a woman like that they wouldn't claim cheating they'd tell the gf she was being insecure which is accurate but still BS its only applied to one

I agree with you 100%. I was just taking to my wife about it yesterday actually.

I went onto r/monogamy and asked a simple question in an attempt to understand a different perspective and you would have though I pulled my dick out and flopped it on the table asking for takers.

The amount of vile negativity was shocking. I asked a simple question. I have zero issue with anyone that wants monogamy but those people are fucking nuts.

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People have this idea that FB is just for old folks now but the shitposting groups on there are fantastic lmao that's all I use it for

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While having fantasies about whomever would be considered normal, it implies at the very least a challenge to the relationship

because it clarifies how inconsiderate they were to come into this relationship not ready to commit and presumably not even knowing what they want.

It literally does none of those things. If you are in a monogamous relationship and have a simple day dream about someone else from time to time that doesn't mean you're not committed. It's a perfectly normal human thing and if they're not acting on it in anyway that does not change the fact they want a monogamous relationship with you. A fantasy is just that a fantastical imaginary thing that you don't neccesarily want to come true. If I like the job I'm at and have been in it for years but sometimes wonder what it'd be like to choose a different career I'm not inherently suggesting I want to leave my job or I'm not committed to it, it's just a curiosity thing. Or I dream about doing some wild career that I could never actually do like being an astronaut that doesn't change the fact that I absolutely know I want to be in the career I'm in.

depends on being able to exercise some amount of control and discipline over your desires,

By not acting on it at all that is control and discipline. Discipline is not, not having those desires at all.

Thoughts are not actions and you cannot equivocate the two without causing a lot of problems

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I would argue that is about extreme monogamy rather than just jealousy because it all stemmed from the idea that your partner should have all their desires met by only you, and should not even have a stray thought about anyone else or they are unfaithful which is different from the kinds of toxic jealousy that might occur in a non-monogamous relationship.

And it was majority of the comments that agreed with them and there were a lot of comments. It wasn't a fringe opinion from a few abusers it was a common sentiment

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Yes but those are all common symptoms of unhealthy monogamy. It is absolutely tied to monogamy because it's the idea that anything your partner finds attractive outside of you or if they're not getting every single desire met by just you, is bad, is shameful, is wrong, is unfaithful etc. I specified extremists because no this isn't what all monogamy is like obviously. But because of our often puritanical societies many take it too far like this.

I'm not shaming a life choice I'm shaming unhealthy relationship ideas that lead to bad things and are sometimes borderline abuse. Calling your partner a cheater for having a fantasy is controlling and abusive. You can't police your partners thoughts. I'm not chastising monogamy as a whole I'm chastising something that's not ok the same I would with bad behaviors in non-monogamy

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Speaking personally, If I decide I don't want to be with someone who isn't commited to a notion of commitment we agreed on, then yes I have been cheated on.

No you haven't unless they actually did something outside of the agreed upon commitment. Them simply considering the idea of ENM or having a conversation with you about it, and you not wanting that for the relationship isn't cheating it's just realizing you want different things which is ok. If they're no longer wanting the commitment you agreed upon but they didn't pursue anything and one of you walked away that wasn't cheating it was just a breakup. Classifying someone wanting a change in relationship style as cheating is just a way to further demonize ENM folks

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I mean the concept is real it's the idea of getting romantically close with someone who isn't your partner outside the boundaries of the relationship. It's become a separate term than just cheating cause many people try to claim if nothing physical happened it doesn't count as cheating which is insane. But yes it does get used incorrectly CONSTANTLY and as a way to demonize your partner for normal thoughts and feelings, considering non-monogamy or just being close with someone you don't like. And I do feel you're right that they often will use it to justify a breakup for simply wanting different things.

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You just haven't found the good shitposting groups bud FB is great for that

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