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.. and it makes me feel MASSIVELY hypocritical. I know, in a way, that everyone is allowed to have their limits of behaviour, but it feels wrong to me when I tell myself that I don’t enjoy someone’s quirks when mine can be massively disregulating for others, too. I think maybe that’s why I feel so bad about it, because my expression of my diversities as well as my issues (they’re different than the neurodiversities and still interplay with them) can be so excessively energetic, negative, etc for others, and I think a lot about that.
I guess the point of this post is just wondering if y’all have any advice. I think that my friend enjoys my company more than I enjoy theirs, and I don’t know if the move is to try to accept the aspects of their personality that feel like too much or to tell them this and risk really upsetting them.
I unfortunately don‘t have too much advice here (edit: says this, then goes on to write out several paragraphs meant to advise lol), but want to show my support. I know how you feel.
For me, a big thing was working on accepting my quirks and trying to work through the shame I feel and felt my whole life. I find that if I put myself under pressure to mask a certain symptom, I am more judgmental towards people who don‘t seem to do that.
At the same time I have to honour the fact that my neurodivergence makes my capacity for stimuli smaller. I think the most respectful way of dealing with that is communicating it clearly and gently. E.g., telling my one adhd friend that I am very overstimulated and that I‘d appreciate them trying to speak more quietly or interrupt me less and that if that‘s not a possibility at the moment, I‘d have to take a few minutes to myself to regulate.
It seems paradoxical, being more sensitive to the traits we ourselves exhibit. Nonetheless, this is part and parcel of what being nd can look like. I also teach a bunch of neurodivergent students and have seen situations in class that felt like pinball. One autistic student would stim vocally, this would in turn agitate another autistic student, at the same time taking a student with adhd out of their hyperfocus, making them more distracted, their behaviours in turn overwhelming the first autistic student, making them stim more noticably, etc etc. You can imagine how that goes haha long story short: Finding a balance between unmasking and at the same time fostering a good environment for, especially other neurodivergent people, is hard. Communication goes a long way and I find that the better I take care of myself (enough sleep, bringing earplugs, working out, etc.), the bigger my capacity for dealing with the behaviours of others and regulating myself.
If all else fails, there is also no shame in finding a comfortable level of distance between yourself and people who trigger you, nd or nt.
I totally feel you, I‘ve been there plenty of time and it. is. tough.
I would encourage you (and have to remind myself of this a lot as well hah) that it‘s not about it being a you problem or a them problem. It might sound cheesy, but we‘re all just weird complex little animals trying to navigate the world, nd or not, trying to figure out what works when interacting with others. I think it‘s not about changing ourselves, but more about figuring together, how we can interact with one another to make everyone feel as safe and comfortable as possible. You might have a quirk you find irritating in others and they don‘t mind it in you. I don‘t think it‘s hypocritical to voice that. I‘m not trying to be the most idk morally consistent, I am trying to be accommodating to others and expect the people I choose to surround myself with to attempt the same. Hope that makes sense, will include a random example at the end to illustrate.
BUT this is all always easier said than done! So please remember to be kind to and patient with yourself.
fictitious example: Let’s say I get overwhelmed by someone speaking loudly. But wouldn‘t mind me speaking loudly. I don‘t think it would be hypocritical for me to ask them to speak more quietly while I continue speaking loudly without trying to change that. If they don‘t mind, then there‘s no reason to expend energy doing that. But we really have to be honest for these things to work.
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Just chiming in here in addition to my other long ass comment: I have found this video on Cringe by Contrapoints to be very enlightening on this subject. While she primarily discusses herself as a trans person cringing at other trans people, I have found it quite insightful for myself as neurodivergent. As it’s a long video (almost 1.5h), my main takeaway was the idea that we can often have a strong reaction to behaviours we shame ourselves for, due to not wanting to be perceived as part of ‚their group‘ and fear to be perceived the same way they are.