Coming soon - Get a detailed view of why an account is flagged as spam!
view details

This post has been de-listed

It is no longer included in search results and normal feeds (front page, hot posts, subreddit posts, etc). It remains visible only via the author's post history.

30
FiveThirtyEight is better than people think: an analysis
Post Body

I've seen the FiveThirtyEight NBA Projections get a lot of hate, especially for their Warriors prediction, but it really doesn't make sense to pick and choose teams when evaluating a model's performance. Looking at things holistically gives a much better sense of how it does.

Compared to consensus Vegas Odds - which is I think a fair benchmark - FiveThirtyEight's projections performs basically identically. On average, Vegas's predicted win total was off by 6.93 wins for a given team, while FiveThirtyEight was off by 7.27 wins.

Both approaches had some of their biggest whiffs for the same teams - way underestimating Cleveland, and overestimating Portland and Indiana. FiveThirtyEight did much better with the Lakers, Houston, and Brooklyn while Vegas did much better with the Warriors and Pelicans.

A lot of the error we saw was the result of random events that neither model could predict, namely injuries and trades, or of things very hard to predict, such as drastic changes in the performance of particular players or the performance of rookies.

Some of you might be saying, "Hey that's still worse than Vegas though - so it does suck!" To that, I say there's still a ton of value in a model that performs roughly as well as Vegas, which is that its assumptions are explicit and transparent. As an example, it had a very low projection for the Warriors, but it was easy to figure out that this was because of pretty low performance projections for Jordan Poole (2022 MIP candidate), Klay Thompson (coming off two major injuries... can you blame it?), and James Wiseman (negative value last year, did not end up playing this year). As a fan, I could look at the projections and still be optimistic by expecting those particular projections to be wrong. Vegas odds, on the other hand, are completely opaque and don't really tell you anything.

Here is the full breakdown if you are interested:

Team Actual Wins 538 Wins Vegas Wins 538 Error Vegas Error
Phoenix Suns 64 53 51.5 -11 -13
Memphis Grizzlies 56 44 41.5 -12 -15
Miami Heat 53 44 48.5 -9 -5
Golden State Warriors 53 37 48.5 -16 -5
Dallas Mavericks 52 49 48.5 -3 -4
Boston Celtics 51 49 45.5 -2 -6
Milwaukee Bucks 51 57 54.5 6 4
Philadelphia 76ers 51 53 50.5 2 -1
Utah Jazz 49 54 52.5 5 4
Toronto Raptors 48 41 35.5 -7 -13
Denver Nuggets 48 50 47.5 2 -1
Chicago Bulls 46 38 42.5 -8 -4
Minnesota Timberwolves 46 40 35.5 -6 -11
Brooklyn Nets 44 50 56.5 6 13
Cleveland Cavaliers 44 25 26.5 -19 -18
Atlanta Hawks 43 51 47.5 8 5
Charlotte Hornets 43 33 38.5 -10 -5
Los Angeles Clippers 42 46 45.5 4 4
New York Knicks 37 43 41.5 6 5
New Orleans Pelicans 36 48 39.5 12 4
Washington Wizards 35 38 33.5 3 -2
San Antonio Spurs 34 36 28.5 2 -6
Los Angeles Lakers 33 42 52.5 9 20
Sacramento Kings 30 32 36.5 2 7
Portland Trail Blazers 27 48 44.5 21 18
Indiana Pacers 25 44 42.5 19 18
Oklahoma City Thunder 24 19 23.5 -5 -1
Detroit Pistons 23 24 24.5 1 2
Orlando Magic 22 23 22.5 1 1
Houston Rockets 20 19 27.5 -1 8
Mean Absolute Error 7.27 6.93

Author
Account Strength
100%
Account Age
6 years
Verified Email
Yes
Verified Flair
No
Total Karma
11,926
Link Karma
201
Comment Karma
11,466
Profile updated: 1 day ago
Posts updated: 7 months ago
:gsw-1: Warriors

Subreddit

Post Details

We try to extract some basic information from the post title. This is not always successful or accurate, please use your best judgement and compare these values to the post title and body for confirmation.
Posted
2 years ago