I mean....I do agree that the right is not "cracking down" on IVF, but the IVF issue is indeed the natural outcome of their abortion position.

You can't say that an embryo is a human life that must be protected and not apply that to IVF too.

The Alabama decision might not've been intentional, but it's the natural logical conclusion of the intentional things they have done.

I would love to see them explain how they reconcile their IVF support for the reality that if embryos are human lives, then IVF facilities are full of human lives that are just enormous risks to the IVF providers. One power outage is a mass murder, one accidental mistake is negligent homicide...that is the natural conclusion of calling embryos human lives.

You can't have it both ways.

The problem here is that even if the Republican voters didn't intend that result....again, it was the logical outcome of their actions.

You can't vote for people promising to overturn Roe and then be all shocked pikachu when they do exactly that and natural consequences occur.

No intentional attacks, I agree.

But the foreseeable impact of calling all embryos human lives is exactly what we're seeing in this discussion.

They can't have it both ways....if those embryos are human lives from conception, then every embryo an IVF provider deals with is potentially a negligent homicide case waiting to happen.

(a) That doesn't respond to my point.

(b) I've already essentially already explained why that is both literally true and fundamentally incorrect...they didn't do it on purpose, but it's the natural consequence of their actions.

Oh, I agree it's shitty journalism, I'm just pointing out that the right isn't innocent on the IVF issue....the Rolling Stone simply overreached in their point.

I'm not saying all Christians. Heck, I wouldn't even say that all Christians are pro-life.

But I can assure you that the same people that push the hardest to overturn Roe also have very strict views of birth control, because they believe it encourages sin through premarital, recreational sex.

That's why Texas teaches abstinence and avoids birth control....

You can, there is a very valid philosophical belief regarding the enumerated rights versus the other rights in the "penumbra".

But you still can't be all shocked pikachu when natural consequences of overturning it happen.

And also let's be real....the number of people that arrive at the conclusion that Roe should've been overturned from a purely legal analytical standpoint is a tiny, tiny fraction of the group that pushed for it to be overturned.

It's kind of like when pro-life people say that they believe life begins at conception because of science, not religion....most of them are just engaging in post hoc rationalization of the thing they arrived at for religious reasons.