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Thatās my situation. In addition to lower IQs, there are also learning and developmental disabilities in the mix. I love my kids, but I struggle to see things from their perspectives. I have a hard time navigating the fine line between encouraging them to do their best and pushing them too hard. I want to support them in every way, but I canāt help feeling that āif they would only try harderāā¦ but I also know that my idea of trying harder may be beyond their abilities. I just want them to be happy and successful, however that looks for them, but Iām so worried about their future in an increasingly critical, polarized, and expensive world, as kids who struggle academically and socially. Iām open to both advice, and support from parents who have navigated similar dynamics. Thanks.
ETA: Thanks to everyone who provided real, meaningful feedback; itās appreciated. Iām done responding now, because most people are making assumptions based on the title of my post, rather than actually reading it, and are choosing to write horrible, hurtful things that are devastating to a single parent who loves her children unconditionally, and is only trying to do her best by them.
My child has several wonderful qualities. Maybe itās my own fault that I canāt identify many āintelligencesā, but I can say that they are pretty observant and intuitive.
Thanks. My children are good, good kids. Iām not worried at all about that aspect. More like, how can I best set them up to be safe and financially secure and stable? I wonāt be here to take care of them forever.
Do you consider this a circlejerk? Because I donāt. Iām not asking other Mensans to talk with me about how awesome we are compared to our kids. Iām just asking for some advice parenting children whose experiences are different from my own, therefore I am struggling to do my best by them. And Iām asking the community which, of all those Iām part of, is most likely to include some members that have faced similar challenges. Iām here for advice, not mutual satisfaction.
I really do not believe that my idea of āsuccessā is right. What worries me most is whether they will be able to get good enough employment to support them in an increasingly expensive world. I worry so much about them struggling. But that, too, probably reflects my own difficulties and struggles.
I have signed them up for a free clinic that tutors for their specific LD, and they are on the waiting list. So thatās something.
Yes, they are medicated for their ADHD, and yes, they were medicated while they were being tested. Their father definitely has ADHD, and I do not; I was tested last year.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Specific Learning Disability. Like dyslexia.
This is such a helpful response; thank you!
Fuck this. You donāt know whining, and you donāt know how every second of my life is spent trying to make my kids happy. This is why I stopped commenting.
That may be, but thatās not a helpful response to my question. Why bother chiming in?
If you truly read it, then you should know better to critique a parent that is actively seeking to do and be better for the sake of her kids. I would never, ever refer to myself as ābrainyā; the whole point of including IQ in the conversation is the nature of the question and the reason for posting it in the Mensa sub.
Not from people that make assumptions based on a title, rather than reading and understanding the post, and then proceed to be unnecessarily hurtful rather than just choosing not engage in a post that doesnāt apply to them, no.
Thank you so much for this. My kids have received amazing support at school from their teams of teachers, techs, social workers and psychologists, and I am so appreciative of their efforts.
Thanks for sharing your perspective. To be clear, I absolutely believe that my children have strengths, and that they are good people. I just am worried about whether they will be able to āmake itā enough in the world to be happy and secure. And I am also struggling with finding the sweet spot between encouraging by hem enough to thrive and be their best, without pushing them to achieve something they arenāt capable of.
Nothing. I donāt care at all what their IQ is, but apparently people are assuming thatās what this post is about without taking the time to actually read it. What this post is about, if you care at all, is how I, coming from my own point of view as a high-IQ person, can best navigate encouraging my kids, who have been identified at a young age as low IQ, to do their absolute best without pushing them too hard, to a point that may be beyond their capabilities.
But thatās not an apt analogy! My kids are not like a dude in a wheelchair with no legs! They are young, capable kids with their whole lives ahead of them! And the whole point of this post is trying to figure out the balance between encouraging them enough to do their best, but not pushing them to a point that is beyond them. Nobody knows where that is for my kids, and of course if I was able to define that boundary, that would be my line in the sand. Thatās the whole reason Iām asking for help here; because my standards clearly wonāt be theirs, and I donāt know how to find theirs without pushing too hard. I have nothing but compassion for my kids and I fight and advocate for them endlessly.
Thank you, I appreciate this response. This is, absolutely, how Iāve tried to be in raising them.
Iām pretty sure my kids donāt think of me as anything other than extremely supportive of them. But Iāll keep your cautionary tale in mind.
Not at all what I said. At all. I am so incredibly proud of my kids, and love them more than anything, which is why I want so much to do whatās best for them and to see them be happy and content long-term. Also not a dude. Why go out of your way to be unnecessarily mean and hurtful on a post that doesnāt apply to you?
Did you even read the post? The whole point is that I do want to support them, unconditionally, where they are.
I had a neuropsych eval last year; no ASD. My kids have had evals through both their primary care providers (and specialists) and the school; no ASD.
Thanks so much for this novel. š I may PM you; Iām hesitant to feed the trolls on this post anymore
I hope kicking people when theyāre down, like single moms who want desperately for their adored children to grow up well and live a good life, helps you sleep well at night. Like, if you have nothing to contribute, just scroll along. But you take time out of your day to hurt others. Thatās extra sad and evil.
They seem to be working really well.
My ex-husband, their father, attempted to go to trade school for carpentry, and couldnāt get through the algebra, which was a program requirement. I suspect he had the same learning disabilities our kids do.
I assume thatās a jokeā¦ I assure you it is very possible to be high IQ and poverty-stricken. And I live in a rural state, with no school choice. The only charter schools around here are online ones, which would not be a great match for either of my kids.
Thank you, this is great advice. Although it is making me feel even more guilty about continuing to say no to football and hockeyā¦ š
My children have been receiving special ed services and accommodations for years now.
Thanks. I have always dreamed of putting them in a Montessori or Waldorf school, where Iām sure they would flourish. Unfortunately, my finances are extremely tight, and the costs of those schools are prohibitive.
But I clearly say, that thatās my knee-jerk perspective, and acknowledge that thatās probably something theyāre not capable of, and I am literally posting asking for advice on how to navigate that disconnectā¦
I did not mean to imply otherwise, at all.
This is a wonderful, helpful response, thank you! It gives me a lot of hope. I will note that one major difference between your situation and my childrenās is that both of their parents are not high-achieving. I think that, for me, seeing how hard life is for their father puts extra pressure on me to make it so that their future is not like his.
God, I hope so. I guess Iām just trying to figure out what, if anything, I can do to make it so. I just want them to be okay.
Me? If so, no. Also, my children have not been diagnosed with any ASD.
That is absolutely not how I was talking about IQ.
I thought critical thinking was absolutely tied to IQ; itās not? Because one of my children struggles with critical thinking in a way that really worries me, and they have the āvery lowā IQ test result. Because I have been actively working with them on this (critical thinking) and have seen no improvement really, I guess I assumed that a low IQ was just preventing them from the ability to understand and evaluate situations critically. But I would be so happy to be wrong about thisā¦
I have signed them up for a free clinic that tutors for their specific LD, and they are on the waiting list. So thatās something.
Are trades a good option for kids with learning disabilities in math? I suspect you have to have a good handle in math for carpentry and plumbing. Maybe also to be an electrician, I donāt know. But welding, maybe?
Whatās incorrect? I literally said that in my post, that I suspect āworking harderā is more than they can do. Thatās the whole point of my post. Trying to figure out the right way to balance support and encouragement to guide them to a successful future.
Likeā¦ did you even read the post past the title?
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The tests were conducted by the school psychologist and indicated FSIQ=79, but the report states āthis score should be interpreted with caution given discrepancies among their index scores ā. The report also confirmed ADHD, and SLD diagnoses. The child was 10 when tested.