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Hey guys, i just wanna share smtg and you can share your opinions if u want to. So recently i got hired by a company that pays really good salary for fresh grad (same like what big fours pay their fresh grads). So during the interview, i was told that the job is gonna be challenging & i was required to work half day on Saturdays and certain PH like Labour Day, which at first caused some hesitancy from me to accept but i still went for it anyways because the salary sounds promising. From Mon-Fri, our working hour in offer letter says 8.30-5pm and 8-1pm on saturday. Anyways, Fast forward a few weeks, i started my first day of work, with no sleep from the previous day at all because ive been struggling on&off with insomnia for years now, but i told myself to pull through the day. No doubt, i was struggling to keep myself focus but i was doing my best to learn as much as i can for the job. At 4pm, I was so excited that there was 1 hour left before i could go back and rest. And then my manager suddenly asked me âhow long can u stay back to work?â, i told her âsince the offer letter says 5pm, i guess i can do 5.30 or 6pm max ?â
She then proceed to smile and told me that thatâs the official work timing of the company but everyone here in the team leaves around 7-8pm. I was so shocked by this because she never did mentioned this part to me during the interview AT ALL. obviously, i didnât like the idea because to me, i was fine with giving up my saturdays and certain PH to commit to this job but telling me i have to work 10-11 hours on weekdays as well is way too much for me and itâs not worth it anymore. Idk if this is a generation thing because I do believe in work life balance but some of you may not. Am i being entitled here?
Anyways, it was 6.30pm, a senior that was teaching me the job scope mentioned she wanted to go back. But she told me sheâll stay if i still wanna stay back to do some exercise with her guidance. I was really tired from no sleep the day before so i told her that it would be nice if we could do this tmr and she agreed. So, i texted my manager (she was at another building) if i could make my way home and she said sure. I said bye to everyone and went home. Reached home, showered and took a nap cuz i was just so drained. After waking up, i saw a missed call from my manager and a few text saying that she had a meeting with the senior team members, and they decided that i wasnât suitable for the job because i wasnât giving my full concentration. Which is fair but i did try my best. What bothered me was the fact that my manager abstain from telling me what my working hours were gonna be like when i start this job. What do yâall think?
Dodged a bullet OP. Sorry you had to go through this but fret not, itâs only your first job. Avoid this company like a plague - share your feedback on Glassdoor for everyoneâs benefit. These feedbacks go a long way, it seriously impacts the companyâs hiring process which in turn becomes a real problem that needs to be addressed internally.
For everyone out there, please move away from the typical Asian mindset of being seen working late and how thatâs a good thing. Imo, youâre not hardworking, youâre just trying to prove smtg or youâre really bad at time mgmt. Start looking at employees working late as a bad thing and call it out openly. Slowly the rest will follow. Only then will this culture change.
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Gen-Y here, from Big 5 (Tech). This expectation of more pay equals more hours is wrong and should not be condoned. You are paid for the work that you do, not your hours. Of course this is subjective to your industry and job as some are literally paid by the hour.
I clock in an average of 30hrs/week, maximum 45 hours, completely hybrid. On days that I go to office, I come in around 10, leave by 4. You can come in and leave whenever you feel like it. Over here it is outcome focused, fully results driven. Granted, I think about work all the time but I draw a line - I do not reply work messages in the weekend or after hours. This is an unspoken rule. Leadership also operates the same way.
Itâs an Asian thing that if youâre seen working late, you are a hardworking employee. But in other countries, it just means youâre bad at time management. Hardworking does not equal to high performing. Truth is, culture breeds culture. It starts with the leadership of the company. I see many of my friends clocking in crazy hours, many of those hours are spent for meetings which couldâve been a conversation over Slack/Teams.
Draw a line folks. And to those of you in leadership roles, have a little empathy and professionalism.