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The Coroner has stated numerous times that victims died in their sleep. However people on this sub still postulate constantly that by some miracle a half dead Ethan or Xana somehow made it into the hallway/kitchen/livingroom. The 911 call was for an "unconscious person" not for a "brutally stabbed to dead person" . The Coroner herself stated the stabs wounds were from stabbing but âdifficult to call punctures because of the size of the knifeâ. That means HUGE dramatic wounds. This all makes sense when you take into account that there was blood oozing down the outside wall of Xana's room.
So , it stands to reason that the roommates couldn't see what had happened to the victims and believed them to be unconscious. This would mean they could hear their phones going off inside their rooms and they weren't answering the doors. So, were the doors locked? Did the killer have the foresight to lock the victims doors. That would mean he knew the roommates were there and he knew they would discover them.
What do we know about the locks? I've heard different things. I saw a news story that said all the locks had key pads which would mean dead bolts. So, the perpetrator couldn't lock the doors from inside and shut the door. But, that info is three years old so it could be that changed and the Lockes could be set from inside. What do we know?
Edit: People want proof they were asleep in their beds:
https://people.com/crime/university-of-idaho-students-killed-in-bed-coroner-says/
https://globalnews.ca/news/9292173/idaho-students-murdered-police-update/
Edit: It was brought to my attention most keypads can be locked from the outside, thanks u/Puceeffoc https://i.imgur.com/XiQXEWu.jpg
Edit: Everyone has a right to their opinion, but the people that believe Ethan died in the hallway are seriously committed.
Edit: The coroner stated that not all victims died in their beds which is true because Ethan did not die in his bed. u/ashgarrison85 elequintly put this;
"When asked if they were in bed, she said, âsomeâ were in beds. That wouldnât be saying they werenât in their own beds, because Ethan doesnât live there. Of course he wasnât in his own bed. Sometimes, we overthink things. Some were in bed, at least one was not. Simple".
If anything, listen to the actual coronerâs interview
Edit: you people are insane. The coroner is real doctor.
"Sheâs also a nurse⌠not a doctor".
I won't say who it was but yes she is a doctor with access to the crime scene. And you don't have a decade of advanced education so your saying that Ethan was found in hallway holds no value.
To agree with another user, we know absolutely nothing about what the roommates did or did not see, who exactly was on the phone, etc. All we know is the police were called for an âunconscious personâ (could be a victim, but could also be a roommate that fainted), that the call was made from inside the home, and it was made from a roommateâs phone, but not necessarily the roommate speaking to dispatch.
That above is all factual and backed up in the police report. However, if we want to turn some wheels in an attempt to figure out what actually happened, I will reference a YouTube video I saw earlier today on r/MoscowMurders, which has since been deleted, as it is not backed up by any proof. Rightfully so. I want to preface, beforehand, that I take the video with a grain of salt, because I am all for logic, and leaving the feds and LE to figure this out. Not us.
I typed out a whole explanation of the video here, but deleted it as I believe someone will think Iâm trying to spread rumors. So, I wonât explain the video, per se, but I will give my 2 cents on why I donât think any doors were locked and what I think happened, using the factual info from the police report, the coroner, and the non-confirmed info from the YT video.
I think what happened was the roommates went upstairs, to the second floor, and found E, laying in the floor, by the bed (I want to say thatâs what the coroner later said, that someone was on the floor, but I canât recall). The door would have to be open to see this upon entering the second floor. They noticed he wasnât responsive, saw blood pooled around him, and went to call 911 to report the horrific scene. However, the gruesome scene sent them into shock, so they ran outside in hysterics (after dialing 911 inside, stated by police report) and fainted. The video mentioned when the roommatesâ friends were âsummonedâ (police report used that terminology), but I canât remember if it was before or after discovering E. Either way, (still speculating while using the true and maybe not true info Iâve read) the 2 roommates and the friends were outside the house. People who were outside saw the commotion and the unconscious roommate, came over, and picked up the phone, noticing 911 was on the line. They talked to dispatch and said someone had fainted. This could explain the call being put under âunconscious personâ, and not homicide, until after EMS arrived.
The video also explains why and how the scene became contaminated, as one source I read said it was. It does go into more detail about that morning, but Iâll leave that to the people who want to watch the video on YT. I read the community rules, and didnât see if it said I canât reference where to find it, so I apologize if I missed that. But if you would like to watch it, itâs on YT and you can search âIdaho 911 Callâ and itâs posted by Harsh Reality. It helps understand what possibly happened that morning, and, if true, why I highly highly doubt the surviving roommates had any involvement. Which I did come to that conclusion before the video, but if itâs true, would prove that.
Sorry for the long winded post! I just havenât seen anyone talk about this video, and it really got me thinking about the 911 call, and would like to see what others think.
TL;DR - I donât think the doors were locked, due to seeing a video, stating a person who was there that morning sent in a letter of what happened that morning the 911 call was made. The video is NOT confirmed to be true. Just throwing out what I think happened while using facts from the police report, coroner, and this video, combined.
EDIT: I see that some commenters already referenced some of what I mentioned above, however, this comment can give some insight on where they might have gotten their info.
I agree. Iâm definitely not trying to insinuate the video being factual, however, it makes a ton of sense. But in the end, we wonât know until itâs released, unfortunately.
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