Coming soon - Get a detailed view of why an account is flagged as spam!
view details

This post has been de-listed

It is no longer included in search results and normal feeds (front page, hot posts, subreddit posts, etc). It remains visible only via the author's post history.

147
Coroner: The victims died in their sleep, and locked doors
Post Flair (click to view more posts with a particular flair)
Post Body

The Coroner has stated numerous times that victims died in their sleep. However people on this sub still postulate constantly that by some miracle a half dead Ethan or Xana somehow made it into the hallway/kitchen/livingroom. The 911 call was for an "unconscious person" not for a "brutally stabbed to dead person" . The Coroner herself stated the stabs wounds were from stabbing but “difficult to call punctures because of the size of the knife”. That means HUGE dramatic wounds. This all makes sense when you take into account that there was blood oozing down the outside wall of Xana's room.

So , it stands to reason that the roommates couldn't see what had happened to the victims and believed them to be unconscious. This would mean they could hear their phones going off inside their rooms and they weren't answering the doors. So, were the doors locked? Did the killer have the foresight to lock the victims doors. That would mean he knew the roommates were there and he knew they would discover them.

What do we know about the locks? I've heard different things. I saw a news story that said all the locks had key pads which would mean dead bolts. So, the perpetrator couldn't lock the doors from inside and shut the door. But, that info is three years old so it could be that changed and the Lockes could be set from inside. What do we know?

Edit: People want proof they were asleep in their beds:

https://people.com/crime/university-of-idaho-students-killed-in-bed-coroner-says/

https://www.krem.com/article/news/crime/university-of-idaho-students-killed/coroner-university-of-idaho-students-stabbed-to-death-in-their-beds/293-d4b984f6-53f8-417e-9386-77104697af9c

https://www.thedailybeast.com/latah-coroner-cathy-mabbutt-says-slain-university-of-idaho-students-were-stabbed-in-bed

https://globalnews.ca/news/9292173/idaho-students-murdered-police-update/

Edit: It was brought to my attention most keypads can be locked from the outside, thanks u/Puceeffoc https://i.imgur.com/XiQXEWu.jpg

Edit: Everyone has a right to their opinion, but the people that believe Ethan died in the hallway are seriously committed.

Edit: The coroner stated that not all victims died in their beds which is true because Ethan did not die in his bed. u/ashgarrison85 elequintly put this;

"When asked if they were in bed, she said, “some” were in beds. That wouldn’t be saying they weren’t in their own beds, because Ethan doesn’t live there. Of course he wasn’t in his own bed. Sometimes, we overthink things. Some were in bed, at least one was not. Simple".

If anything, listen to the actual coroner’s interview

Edit: you people are insane. The coroner is real doctor.

"She’s also a nurse… not a doctor".

I won't say who it was but yes she is a doctor with access to the crime scene. And you don't have a decade of advanced education so your saying that Ethan was found in hallway holds no value.

Comments

To agree with another user, we know absolutely nothing about what the roommates did or did not see, who exactly was on the phone, etc. All we know is the police were called for an “unconscious person” (could be a victim, but could also be a roommate that fainted), that the call was made from inside the home, and it was made from a roommate’s phone, but not necessarily the roommate speaking to dispatch.

That above is all factual and backed up in the police report. However, if we want to turn some wheels in an attempt to figure out what actually happened, I will reference a YouTube video I saw earlier today on r/MoscowMurders, which has since been deleted, as it is not backed up by any proof. Rightfully so. I want to preface, beforehand, that I take the video with a grain of salt, because I am all for logic, and leaving the feds and LE to figure this out. Not us.

I typed out a whole explanation of the video here, but deleted it as I believe someone will think I’m trying to spread rumors. So, I won’t explain the video, per se, but I will give my 2 cents on why I don’t think any doors were locked and what I think happened, using the factual info from the police report, the coroner, and the non-confirmed info from the YT video.

I think what happened was the roommates went upstairs, to the second floor, and found E, laying in the floor, by the bed (I want to say that’s what the coroner later said, that someone was on the floor, but I can’t recall). The door would have to be open to see this upon entering the second floor. They noticed he wasn’t responsive, saw blood pooled around him, and went to call 911 to report the horrific scene. However, the gruesome scene sent them into shock, so they ran outside in hysterics (after dialing 911 inside, stated by police report) and fainted. The video mentioned when the roommates’ friends were “summoned” (police report used that terminology), but I can’t remember if it was before or after discovering E. Either way, (still speculating while using the true and maybe not true info I’ve read) the 2 roommates and the friends were outside the house. People who were outside saw the commotion and the unconscious roommate, came over, and picked up the phone, noticing 911 was on the line. They talked to dispatch and said someone had fainted. This could explain the call being put under “unconscious person”, and not homicide, until after EMS arrived.

The video also explains why and how the scene became contaminated, as one source I read said it was. It does go into more detail about that morning, but I’ll leave that to the people who want to watch the video on YT. I read the community rules, and didn’t see if it said I can’t reference where to find it, so I apologize if I missed that. But if you would like to watch it, it’s on YT and you can search “Idaho 911 Call” and it’s posted by Harsh Reality. It helps understand what possibly happened that morning, and, if true, why I highly highly doubt the surviving roommates had any involvement. Which I did come to that conclusion before the video, but if it’s true, would prove that.

Sorry for the long winded post! I just haven’t seen anyone talk about this video, and it really got me thinking about the 911 call, and would like to see what others think.

TL;DR - I don’t think the doors were locked, due to seeing a video, stating a person who was there that morning sent in a letter of what happened that morning the 911 call was made. The video is NOT confirmed to be true. Just throwing out what I think happened while using facts from the police report, coroner, and this video, combined.

EDIT: I see that some commenters already referenced some of what I mentioned above, however, this comment can give some insight on where they might have gotten their info.

[not loaded or deleted]

You and me both, my friend 😂

[not loaded or deleted]

I agree. I’m definitely not trying to insinuate the video being factual, however, it makes a ton of sense. But in the end, we won’t know until it’s released, unfortunately.

Author
User Suspended
Account Strength
0%
Suspended 1 year ago
Account Age
5 years
Verified Email
Yes
Verified Flair
No
Total Karma
5,820
Link Karma
122,056
Comment Karma
30,835
Profile updated: 1 week ago

Subreddit

Post Details

We try to extract some basic information from the post title. This is not always successful or accurate, please use your best judgement and compare these values to the post title and body for confirmation.
Posted
2 years ago