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Upset You Got Called “Sir” By A Restaurant Server? At Least Attempt Not Sounding Like One…
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Yesterday I was out with a small group of trans women, I have a super-clocky voice (despite spending $2,600 on voice training) but the server called me “sweetie.” At the other end of the table, a girl who looks very femme, and FWIW has had bottom surgery, but talks in a (fairly androgynous) masculine voice, as she says it doesn’t make her dysphoric, got called “sir” and things went downhill from there.

Why are so many trans women so self-centered? If you want other women to relate to you as such, try speaking the way they expect; they don’t care about gender-expansiveness. The minute we step out our front door we engage in activities whose value be might not fully buy, stop acting like gender presentation is any different.

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The waiter was wrong because your friend is clearly presenting female. I get it if their voice sounds masculine and instinctively they’d assume they’re make; but even Cis women have a deep voice sometimes.

If your friend is walking around feminine, dress, breast, and vagina and still gets called sir it’s an anomaly. If anything the server could’ve stayed neutral.

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Agreed. OPs behavior is self defeating.

Also, thanks. I learned a new word today

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It is, and you certainly do make a good point. But let’s look at this in a lens to common sense.

If someone was to call someone that looks very feminine “ma’am” and 90% they read feminine, it makes sense they’d be in the right. Maybe at the end that person indeed isn’t a woman, and that person missed that 10% masculinity part; and of course, they should correct themselves. But nobody is going to fault them for using logical deduction.

The waiter seen her friend as 90% feminine, but instead chose to focus on the 10%, her voice. Good on the waiter not assuming; but bad because he went the complete opposite direction and assumed on the other end (or for all we know did it on purpose and was a bigot). The best thing he could’ve done is keep it neutral; and if he had to choose go femine as the person (according to OP) registered as female until they spoke.

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I’ll meet you halfway and say 50%.

I’d sooner mistake a silent butch lesbian as a trans man, than a feminine trans woman with a deep voice as a man. If that makes any sense.

In other words, I take in the way a person’s dressed to represent their gender. It’s not perfect but 90% of the time it is; and in this case it would very much have been if the waiter used common sense.

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