Also I made a post but I think I'm shadow banned from posting on the main page lmao

agreed with almost everything he's said. And some of Ethan's questions were in bad faith. What about Poland? If they did, we could send a certain amount and work on things like sanctions. If the entire UN put sanctions on Russia, their economy and resources would plummet. Yes, you can't make a peace agreement with Putin, he's insanely stupid and narcissistic. But if zelensky is such a peaceful leader, why does he spend his free time to go to a photoshoot for time magazine. I don't know about you, but if I was a leader and a war broke out, it would be the only thing on my mind. Zelensky should spend genuine time to negotiate peace talks. Obviously Putin is too much of a bone head. I mean, the leaders he appointed to war strategy are some of the worst strategies I've ever seen in any way. I think the only worse strat was the bay of pigs. And the CIA knowingly releasing a document that they asked JFK if they could create false flags. Stuff like bombing cities, shooting down civilian aircraft and claim it was the Cuban's. JFK thought that was ridiculous, obviously. And I believe he was assassinated about 2 weeks after that. But back to Ukraine and Russia... Send a certain amount, help their country start a conversation like Garth Brooks. And like I said, I know that Russia would most likely wipe their ass with the paper it was written on. But then the UN gets involved, puts sanctions on them and they will slowly lose the ability to even feed their own people, let alone continue an endless war.

The Cuban missile crisis is honestly a great comparison. Nuclear subs set up around the border of Cuba, America didn't like this (despite us having nukes in neighbouring countries lol) and went on high alert. The leaders sat down, one bone head wanted to immediately attack... During the cold war... During the MAD era... Ya, that would have led to full blown nuclear warfare. What jfk agreed with instead was to put navy subs in DEFENSIVE formation. Then they came to some agreement, but shortly after that. An American sub came close to a Russian sub and I guess the policy was to fire shots past targets to signal that you wanted to communicate. I don't know what bozo thought that was the best way to say "hey I'm friendly can we talk?" So on the Cuban sub, 2 out of 3 captains said launch the nukes. One guys gut feeling that it wasn't an attack, because it was very unusual and stupid behavior... He saved the entire world by trusting that this didn't seem like an attack. He didn't know what it was, but he didn't think it was an attack.

So shortly after, we came to an agreement to disarm nukes and have made a tremendous amount of progress in that direction. But what I'm ultimately getting at, the defensive positioning told them that we're only a threat if you are. While our leaders worked up negotiations in the mean time.

Of course the cold war was a very odd and specific war, but it was the scariest major war to ever happen, despite minimal casualties during it. But we worked that out. So we know that negotiating, talking, listening to demands intently, whether you think they're ridiculous and come up with good counter points to why their terms are way out of the scope of reality. But if you have goods that they need, you can professional remind them that if you can't reach an agreement, Russia will receive anything from America and our allies. And also assure someone like Putin that it would be the worst outcome and wouldn't be happy to do it.

And ask? Do you really want another world war? Over a tiny country that is blasted from radiation from the chivola plant? Ok, you captured Ukraine. Now the un gets involved, the EU steps in, America, Canada, Australia etc... to come take it back and give it to it's rightful people. What are you going to do after conquering Ukraine? When does it end? It doesn't, which is a common trope in war, unfortunately... But what does Ukraine have that is so special? Chivola rad roaches? Ok, now we are bringing a lot of backup and you can also bring your backup and no- oh wait that was the EU in WW2. See the similarities? Ya, it ultimately achieved nothing but a bunch of dead people and somehow Russia and the Americans both agreed that the Nazis can get bent. But still, have we really not learned after 2 WORLD WARS how useless they are and the very tiny narcissistic decisions that exponential to a nation uniting for a "master race". Guess what? The master race blew his brains out in a bunker because he was too much of a coward to die honorable alongside those that he successfully brain washed and had enough meth to turn them into killing machines.

Does Putin want that? Because that fate is entirely possible and if we don't TRY to make peace, if they stay aggressive, give them a reminder of how ww2 turned out. And if that's what Putin wants, then so be it. The whole point is we keep printing cash for an endless war and their leader keeps begging for more.

But not once has their been a public request for peace negotiations because both sides are prideful, narcissistic, greedy and bloodthirsty assholes that would rather flash their metaphorical dick and the other begs for money like it's a fly to a pile of dog shit. Not even considering anything but money and war. Both sides Yes, Russia is the aggressor, but zelensky is also a piece of shit that doesn't care about his citizens either. He just wants more "cold war era gardening supplies" and a couple small loans of 100s of billions of dollars and somehow his need for "resources" is urgent basically every week.

I feel bad for the citizens of both countries. Kids being sent to war with no training, no choice, forced to invade. And the other side is forced to hold territory or migrate and that's all terribly sad.

I agreed with fidias. Zelensky is a greedy POS and is too busy begging for money than trying to have a dialogue about peace, negotiations, reminders of the consequences if Putin does push further, it will no longer be a 1 way war and allies will be forced to put sanctions on Russia, which would destroy their resources and slowly not even being able to feed their citizens, let alone sustain a war or conquered territory. And if does get Ukraine? What next? Ww3? Because that's the only possible outcome I see.

Which would be a really funny crossover episode with Israel and Palestine verging on leading to we3.

It'd be entertaining at least. Not so much scared of nukes, but bio warfare does scare the hell outta me... So put me in a bunker with my Xbox and I'll be out when Putin blows his brain out in a bunker just like Hitler, because history tends to repeat itself.