Coming soon - Get a detailed view of why an account is flagged as spam!
view details

This post has been de-listed

It is no longer included in search results and normal feeds (front page, hot posts, subreddit posts, etc). It remains visible only via the author's post history.

267
Looking to hear some counterpoints on my views regarding Ukraine and Israel wars
Post Flair (click to view more posts with a particular flair)
Author Summary
MaxxGawd is in Ukraine
Post Body

So I'm an American citizen of Ukranian ethnicity and I consider myself to be fairly liberal and leftist. I have generally been pretty opposed to most US wars such as the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. However in the current situation I find myself agreeing with the US govt stance of supporting Urkaine and Israel but I would like to hear both sides and do research. I am not really certain of what the arguments of those who are pro-russia and pro-palestine are in these conflicts. In particular:

  1. For Ukraine people who say US should stop sending money and weapons to Ukraine, what alternative is there? Do people who believe this view think that Ukraine should just be conquered? Or do they believe that the US sending weapons makes the situation worse and that Ukraine can defend itself alone? My opinion is that without western military support Ukraine would just get conquered which a negative outcome for people who value state sovereignty. What do people who are against sending Ukraine weapons or Pro-Russia feel on this issue.

  2. For the Israel-Hamas war, while I agree that Israel's tactics and killing of Palestinian civilians is awful, I am curious what the alternative is. Basically the way I see it, Hamas openly claims it wants to destroy Israel and launched an attack killing civilians. Any country having such an enemy on it's border would want to eliminate that enemy. I don't think there is any country in the world that would not invade a neighbor that acts that way. Perhaps on a tactical execution level they can do things to cause less civilian casualties but ultimately invading Gaza with the goal of eliminating Hamas seems like a rational thing to do. I understand that people who are pro-Palestine want innocent civilians to not die which I of course 100% agree with but do they want Israel and Hamas to just peacefully co-exist? That feels like a non-option given Hamas' attack last month.

Duplicate Posts
2 posts with the exact same title by 1 other authors
View Details
Author
Account Strength
100%
Account Age
10 years
Verified Email
Yes
Verified Flair
No
Total Karma
5,671
Link Karma
3,600
Comment Karma
1,868
Profile updated: 1 day ago

Subreddit

Post Details

Location
We try to extract some basic information from the post title. This is not always successful or accurate, please use your best judgement and compare these values to the post title and body for confirmation.
Posted
1 year ago