If this gets too wordy then pardon me. I spent the greater part of 5 years to a clandestine body (its disrespectful to a Grand Lodge to even call them one). You name a seat, I held it. After some revelations I realized this was a fraudulent scheme. Because of the time and work I put in…it left the craft these men left a terrible view of masonry.

Flash forward to now and I am petitioning to a MWPHGLOTX lodge and I have a few questions.

1. What to expect? Do I lose all of my degrees and have to start over? Would my previous works be recognized?

2. The application asks for a letter of demit from a previous lodge. Currently they are telling me I have to pay 3 months of dues to receive a letter of demit as I told them to fuck off cause you aren’t getting anymore of my money. Would this matter to the lodge I’m petitioning too?

3. Ask many anything you ever wanted to know about a clandestine body.

Thanks for any advice or words of encouragement Brothers?!?!? If y’all even consider us that.