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So You Want To Start A Nation
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Welcome to Civclassic, the map is large, the plugins are interesting, order is held up by groups of PvPers with large obsidian structures, and a history that extends literally 10 years back guides long standing feuds.

If you're new, and actually want to understand the server and play it properly, you'll read the plugin sheet. Then, you'll check out the outdated rail map. On it, you see nation after nation. SPQR, Mir, Icenia, ect. You join the server, and you're hit with 1000 different messages asking you to join a nation.

But you are a visionary! You want to create your own nation and go down in the history of the server.

Here is why you shouldn't.

  • Within the past 2 years on this server only 2 nations have been created by players new to the server that still exist today in any meaningful capacity.

These nations are Imperial Truidence (2019) and Eddie Murphy (2020). Grand Imperium did exist, but went inactive during the Infinity War for reasons unknown. Out of both of these nations mentioned, to the best of my knowledge, only IT has reached "late-game capacity" I.E. the proper amount of wealth and prowess to build expensive structures that aren't necessary for national survival, but only able to be constructed by people with a high grasp on server mechanics.

The most likely result of you deciding to set up a 1 man nation with a constitution in the middle of nowhere will be a quick death with no trade partners due to having nothing of value to trade (unless you have botting skill), a Constitution that fundamentally does not matter because you are the only person living under it, and no high end factories producing EXP. You also probably won't have the diamonds to buy silk touch picks to buy prot, exp, obby, city bastions, ect. In conclusion, it won't be a super fun experience.

  • You will lack proper protection for your wealth.

In large cities, raiding is more common. This is simply due to the fact that they are large, connected cities that alts know they can go to in order to get wealth. Combating this however, is the fact that these cities are well snitched, bastioned, kira relayed, and have large populations on different time zones who can probably catch raiders that log in at 7 in the morning.

Living in a 1 man nation in the middle of nowhere offers no recourse though unless you have friends in high places, which is hard to do because you have nothing to trade with power players in any high capacity and don't hold a strategic value to any of these nations operating not on a sense of goodwill, but out of a desire to advance themselves and their ideal of the server. Ask yourself why would a good pvper from Icenia, ect. head out to my one man nation whos wealth consists mostly of oak wood?

Now, luckily for you, there is a way to solve this. If you're active on the sub and explain how you are getting absolutely buttfucked by "epicgamer6969" , a few people who like cool PvP might trek their way over and kill this man and hold him for you. But you've gotta be active to do this and talk with them. That said, if you live in a city, the response time will be faster, the city government will care, and you'll be able to go to trial and get reps out of it..

  • Wow...somehow you found diamonds and have a silk touch pick! (You won't have proper city infrastructure unless you one man grind it all)

But wait! You live in the , on a deserted island with absolutely no rail connections to cities with ore smelters that are willing to let you in to smelt your 16 diamond ore. Now you have to trek to Icenia or Gabon to smelt these ores over treacherous massive cliffs or unlit rails and you could die.

The fact of the matter is-major cities have factories they will be, if they're accepting nations, more than happy to add you to so you can smelt your ores properly and not in a shit and piss furnace, which you'll want to do because if you get 16 diamond ore, a ore factory (which is hard to set up on your own and has repair costs every month) will shit you out 48 diamonds which you can use to buy a silk touch pick (23 d) or prot (100 diamonds) or bastions (16d-2d depending on if its a city or vault bastion) and obby.

  • So what should I do?

Join a city, learn the ropes, run for government, gain an idea of what Civ is. You'll have a lot more fun hanging out with a group of people in a city generally speaking than you will hanging out in the woods becoming a grape dying on the vine. Some cities have vibrant political communities that can appeal to the hardcore RP boi and the jaded grinding boy alike, or e-girls that like to plant flowers or something. IDK what you people do.

There are several cities I personally recommend. My own, Icenia, is sorta a "jack of all trades" place where you can become wealthy, dick around, grind, or become a judge and handle a bunch of stupid people arguing over stupid things...but there are others that are great too. Shop around.

Icenia, Gabon, Eddie Murphy (EM), Mount September, and Yoahtl...Imperial Truidence are all interesting bets. They are active, have interesting political communities, and are generally accepting of people

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