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I love how serious and defensive Buffy got when Caleb threatened Xander. And it's how a lot of us feel when we see these tired Xander hate posts.
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No. The person literally meant Kai Cole. At first I thought they meant Cordelia, but they went on a tangent about their toxic behaviour on the set of "Justice League".

I do legit think that some people find it difficult to differentiate between Xander and Joss.

OK. Are you blaming the whole Willow debacle on Xander?

Let's be crystal clear, Willow wanted to jump Xander's bones since they were kids. If anyone took advantage of anyone, she took advantage of him.

Remember when Willow wanted to make out with Oz in Oz's van in an attempt to make Xander jealous?

Plus, wasn't Xander concussed when he made out with Willow in the factory?

Doesn't paint Willow in a good light.

Oh. I'm all for bringing up the good and the bad. But let's be honest here, people think being broody over being rejected by Buffy for a few episodes outweighs saving the lives of Willow, Giles and Buffy in season one.

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Yes, it actually does. Unless you're a petty child with a serious lack of perspective.

Which "bad behaviour"?

He's not a women beater or a rapist.

There's a real lack of perspective with some BtVs fans. In a world where there's thousands of men raping, murdering and beating women per minute, for some reason, Xander is demonised.

In a show where Buffy rapes Spike, Willow rapes Tara, Giles kills Ben, etc, and Cordelia treating anyone who doesn't have a trust fund like dirt, Xander making sarcastic quips doesn't seem so heinous.

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Well, I wasn't generalising. That person was just confused. They thought that Xander was based entirely on Joss. He isn't. Joss Whedon wouldn't do 1/1000 of the heroic things Xander did. Joss is a complete dick.

As far as Willow goes, I tend to think that she gets a free pass. She literally screams at him when she found out about him and Cordelia.

Yeah. I think you have it wrong. For starters, the hate towards the character of Xander by a section of the BtVs fans is off-the-charts. He's like a Pinata.

Yes, every character does have their faults and they all make mistakes and errors, etc. I'm not exactly sure why you're telling me that, you don't get me creating posts stating my hate, etc.

Xander receives a disproportionate hate. Everyone can see it. But on my watch, I'm going to even out the scales.

Who said that he's my favourite character? I love all of them equal. Faith might shade it.

The hate towards Xander is social convention. It's akin to a bunch of ants mirror each other without ever delving into the originality pool. I mean, I've had people calling him a misogynist. When I asked for an example, the person just blocked me.

I get the distinct impression that a lot of people today use words that they aren't sure of the meaning.

I mean, Xander got his arm broken by Olaf, as he was protecting Anya and Willow. He got his eye squished by trying to get the potentials out of the wineyard.

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The people saying this are the people who love Cordelia "poisoned tongue" Chase.

Did you think he was a tool wheh he saved the lives of Willow, Giles and Buffy in season 1?

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Nope. Not butthurt at all.

The amount of hate towards Xander is insane. It's totally hypocrisy.

I had am argument with someone who thought Xander cheated on Joss's ex wife.

Weirdos.

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Yeah. I've still not been told what exactly Xander did wrong.

I keep asking. I do get examples, but they're outshone by examples of wrongdoings by Willow, Spike, etc.

The day Xander rapes people, kills people by his own hands and almost ends the world let me know. ;)

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And the fact that Buffy and Willow adored Xander means nothing? They fought side by side till the end.

Xander saved the world. She saved her friends from dying several times, including Cordelia.

I seriously love this thread!

Just shows how much she loves and adores and feels protective of Xander.

Feeling the love!

The haters are just jealous because Buffy and Willow adored him.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buffy/comments/14x9nk9/btvs_ladies_showing_xander_love/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2

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Xander (and Dawn and Riley and Kennedy) receives more hate and loathing than the First, the Mayor, The Master, Adam and Glory combined.

I call into question the intelligence of BtVs fans.

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i think a lot of the xander hate comes from many of us growing up and maturing - we all realize xander was not the healthiest friendship early on and was kinda being a dick

No. The Xander hate came at exactly the same time as Joss's transgressions came to light.

Hell, I even had someone saying that they hate Xander because he repeatedly cheated on Kai Cole (Joss Whedon's ex wife)

Xander was an amazing friend and a great person.

He saved the lives of Buffy, Giles and Willow in season 1. If it wasn't for him, there wouldn't have been a second season.

Those who doubt his qualities of a man are calling into question the judgement of two of the smartest and strongest female protagonists in fiction history.

Another reason that people hate Xander is because this generation likes to think they're morally superior to the 90s/early 2000s generation.

Yeah, when there's television shows of people having sex and hooking up on an island, when hard core porn is available to anyone with an Internet connection and can be viewed by minors, I would say that this is the most morally corrupt generation of modern times.

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Right.

I forgot, this is 2023, the generation of the pure who are righteous.

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Even though the girls clearly loved him?

Which actions were those?

It's fine for Willow to yell at Xander for dating Cordelia but Xander is the next coming of Hitler for pouting after being rejected?

As I said, there are people out there who thought that Xander Harris (a fictional character) cheated on Kai Cole (A real person)

Unhinged.

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