Hi all, I apologize for the formatting and for the madness.

I need to reach out to a few young adult men. I love them to bits and I want to help them see the world in a better light. I often do agree with their points and can see where they come from... but I also understand that a lot of their topics are in desperate need of more nuance. |For example, I agree that the world is shitty for men, but the world is shitty for all of us who aren't rich and beautiful and connected.

I want to know how to refute some of the common statements that they make like how LGBTQ stuff is being shoved down their throats or that women are awful to men... but I need to do it in a kind way. They're really good men, They have such an amazing capacity for kindness and empathy, they're so funny and sweet and so smart... but they're going down a path that is really scary, and it's a path I can already see is chipping away at the kindness, intelligence and brilliant wit they have.

how do I bring these bright beautiful boys back from the shadow realm?

Update: Hi everyone! I have no idea how to update, so I put it in a comment but also here.

firstly, I spoke to them both separately and they told me that it's just shitposting, and I told them that it kinda seemed terrifying for them to be going down that road. and they both actually started admitting that they don't even agree with 90% of that rhetoric, it's just so absurd and funny to them that they parrot it. it's been a day so far and they've both shifted their humour. They're in their 20s, they actually are good humans. neither of them are virgins or have any issues with getting partners (to all the weirdos telling me to sleep with them, eww, no get some help)

I also wanted to clear things up, I actually hold much more egalitarian views, I don't inherently see men as monsters and women as the ever victim. both sexes/genders each have their struggles, their negatives and their positives and benefits. Women can and are shitty to men, the same way men can be and are shitty to women. anyone can be shitty to anyone. we're humans. Not all Women and Not All Men. Society is shitty towards both sides in different but equally horrifying ways.

I still don't think LGBTQ stuff is being shoved down your throat. The gays have been in your media for forever, They're just not hiding behind euphemisms and disguises anymore.

I'd also like to thank everyone who gave actual good advice and content creators who are actually good humans. it's given me a lot of good perspective, but also given me the language to relay that perspective.

I think you're all doing the best you can, some of you are busy healing and it takes time and it's a bumpy road.
Just keep trying, keep connecting with humans in positive and meaningful ways.
Everything will be okay.