Hello everyone I'm trying to decide which of these three games I should get. It's between kanban ev, hegemony, eclipse second dawn.

We do like euro games but I feel like we need a game that has more interaction or some dice rolling because we started out this hobby with catan which some of the group say they miss it. So I just wanted to bring a more interactive game to the table that allows for more talking. Whether that is with or without dice rolling.

From what I have heard hegemony is the most interactive by far but are the other games I listed a better overall game that I should get those?

Edit: some games that we enjoy are terraforming Mars, terra mystica, brass, dune: imperium, Agricola