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I donāt know if itās just my firm or if Iām already an out-of-touch partner, but the posts in this sub about associates worked to the bone are so different from what I experience in my day-to-day firm life. Most associates are protective of their schedules and regularly turn down work, even if theyāre working below or just at their hours expectation. MANY associates donāt bill their required annual hours. The firm only gets involved if itās shockingly low (like half) or there is a significant shortfall (over 10%) for multiple years. Associates also fight the firm for billable credit for things like business development or mentoring. In my group, partners have higher hours than associates while also balancing all of the truly non-billable stuff that comes with partnership. If a client needs something I donāt have the ability to say no, even if Iām dealing with a hellish travel schedule, presenting a webinar, trying to finish an article for Bloomberg, etc.
Associates also complain if they feel theyāre working too much and can get partners in trouble. I had an associate who crapped on me in an exit interview because they didnāt like how much they had to work on a TRIAL where they were third chair and I was second. The comment bugged me and I looked back to see I was billing significantly more time than them; they worked around 200/month at the peak. Recently, another partner was dealing with unfortunately clustered court deadlines and because no associates would agree to help, they had to rely more heavily on the one associate already assigned. They told the associate they were working on staffing and this would be a short-term push, but the associate went over their head to complain about working a weekend and the partner was told to āback offā so the associate wouldnāt quit. This partner was regularly sending 3am emails and barely keeping their head above water.
Whatās more troubling is the fundamental lack of ownership. Very few associates actually dive into their work and think proactively. They blow deadlines all the time. Itās like pulling teeth to keep an assignment moving. Some meet their deadlines but give totally half-baked work. They may not read the instructions and answer the wrong question, or their legal analysis begs more questions than it answers, or if I pull up their sources I see they missed something critical to the assignment. Feedback often isnāt implemented. Iāve been burned many times by investing heavily in training someone only to see minimal if any changes to their work product. At this point I usually cut bait. This isnāt all associatesāsome are rock stars, and the angels sing when they agree to do work because then I can trust them and relax for a moment. But they are the minority, maybe 1 or 2 out of 10. Iām sure I could be a more effective manager and inspire better work from the non-star associates if that was all I did. But Iām exhausted, damnit, and at some point I need to spend time with my kids.
I donāt know what Iām missing here. Am I blind to the associate struggle? To me they feel overcompensated and entitled and frankly a waste of client money. Iād torch the law firm hiring model if I could. But for now Iām too tired.
So how do the clients fit in here? No consideration of our ethical duties to them.
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I agree with you 100%. And I hope I was clear that the assotiates you reference are the ones who often don't understand that.
I was basically a sole practitioner until recently (actually I was with a firm, but I was the only one who practiced in my chosen field there). So I had no associates. I have way too much work and need help, so I recently moved to a different firm with associates I could call on. It has been incredibly eye opening-and disappointing. I have one associate in particular who I want to involve, but he is so lackadasical, sloppy, and blase that I'm about to stop using him. Deadlines are pointless-I can tell him the client wants a document by a certain date, but it's as if he doesn't care. He may or may not meet that deadline, and if he misses it, I won't hear from him.
I could have written that myself. I have yet to see anything like this from the one associate I am talking about. In contrast, I recently brought in a litigation matter for a client (I have an office practice). I pulled in a litigation asociate who I thought could handle it. The associate was genuinely excited that I trusted him to handle it, and I know he will look after the client.
In general, it appears that a lot of these associates truly don't understand what it means to practice law. This isn't a job, it's a profession. Clients count on us to handle their problems. If you want a 9-5 career, go be a banker. I don't know if it's the law schools or what, but somehow that message is not getting conveyed.
This comment really resonated with me, and I decided I wanted to add a little more.
I've been at this for quite a long time, and I am proud of the book of business I have built. My main focus is estate planning and business work, and I have a solid stable of top notch clients who have been with me for decades. When I recently moved to my present firm, one stated reason was for me to be able to ultimately retire and pass my book of business on to a younger lawyer. I don't know about you, but when I first started, if an older lawyer told me that they wanted me to ultimately take over their book of business, I would have jumped at the chance. So I am completely perplexed that I can't find a younger lawyer who wouldn't jump at hte opportunity. I think I can find one eventually, but I had no idea it would be this difficult. It seems like a lot of younger lawyers just want to collect a paycheck, work, and go home, with no thought about generating a book of business. We're in the business of selling our reputation, and if you don't get your name out there, you're not going to ever build a reputation.
I don't get it. Maybe I'm just old.