Hi All, I think / hope I have an idea that can help me, but also help us all ride more comfy. Seriously struggling with saddle pain, working w a professional highly regarded fitter. On our 3rd saddle try right now. I basically can’t do more than about 45 - 65 mins, after thousands of kms ridden. I know saddle fit is #1. But shorts play a role. I’m currently in an Endura “3D” short. 3D meaning the padding is sculpted, with different thicknesses in different areas. Xtract Gel Short II. My concern is that while the concept is good, it then depends on the individual fit of the hip vs. saddle interface. And I’m 99% sure the thickest part of the pad is just floating in the air, and I’m riding on the parts that are 1 mm thick. Leads me to think that a uniform chamois pad would always be better, because it eliminates that variable. You’ll have the pad between your pressure points, always. Like doesn’t it make more sense to be on a uniform pad that is ____ mm thick, than a 3D pad, that may or may not line up with your hip bone vs seat interface? I’m also wondering a lot about a gel vs foam pad. I’m thinking that because of the nature of the materials, gel / silicone / whatevs would be much more responsive / forgiving than just foam, that compresses to a point, and then gives no more and becomes much harder. I really would appreciate some input from anyone who knows a bit on this stuff. I don’t really know what to say; I know little about these things, but it just seems this 3D foam thing is just not the right solution. I’m dying here. I want to crank more, and the only thing holding me back is my pain. Sucks. Honestly appreciate any input.