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on the dismal failure of antag subs and why a place like this needs to exist
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To most people outside of the srsmetaverse, after a brief look there's a level of bewilderment why there are so many subs set against SRS. "Why does srss and asrs both exist, and furthermore why do they constantly bicker and dramabomb each other?

But to understand the difference, you have to see why antag subs in general are a totally bankrupt intellectual failure. Let's go over the dynamic cycle between antag subs and ShitRedditSays, shall we?

SRS: "I don't like these people, let's do something inflammatory to make them mad"

Antag Sub: "Grrr! SRS made us mad! Let's talk about how shitty they are!"

By all appearances, SRS well understands that they just fuel the fire for antag subs, does it intentionally, and does nothing but laugh at the results and predictability thereof. It is questionable whethet members of the antag subs really understand that without them, SRS wouldn't blab half the inflammatory shit they do and don't actually mean most of it.

Go look at a sub like SRSS: The posts there take some quote from SRS and point out how absurd it is that anyone believes it, rather than asking "What the fuck is wrong with someone that they'd say that kind of stuff disingenuously?" Does anyone really think anyone at srs reads a post like those and says "ooohhh they made such a valid point about how absurd the thing I made up was"?

Whether you think it's good or bad, antag subs getting angry at SRS is completely intentional on the part of SRS. Through pissing people off and trolling, they keep the level of interaction at precisely that above.

Any sub that doesn't articulate an awareness of SRS's motives in this regard doesn't get a discussion, they get a middle school back and forth that gradually ratchets up to both sides being gross and vile.

If you want SRS to stop doing whatever it is you hate, reposting it and complaining about it has the opposite effect. Whenever some post about some inane bullshit rises hot and high on SRSS, the only reaction on the part of shitredditsays is "haha let's do more of that please."

What you do instead is talk honestly about their real motivations, deconstruct their reasoning, find out what makes them tick. Unfortunately, that's not easy. You have to engage in dialogue even with SRSers to do that work, to make it clear it's not what they say that makes you mad but that they say it. That can't happen in a circlejerk and it's precisely why both SRS and its hateful satellites circle the drain forever.

Thankfulky that can exist here and has in the past. It was effective enough at cutting through the bullshit that SRS made a banbot for srsers posting here (as well as everyone else) and one of the archangelles angrily chastised anyone engaging in the thoughtcrime of talking to us.*

But that won't happen if we just let the circlejerk happen here or spill over from either side.

super serious caps mode disengaged, begin discussion

edit: if you disagree with the direction of this sub, this is the thread to discuss it in. please do so.

*edit: srs didn't like my summary of events. so basically they agree there was a banbot (for only OUR subreddit, not mra or srd or any other place they "shouldn't engage") and they agree users were chastised in a big mod post for engaging (again unlike everywhere else) but it totally wasn't because we didnt circlejerk and actually had discussions where SRSers admitted there were things they didn't like about Prime. it was because.... reasons?

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