Which army to start with is always a problematic question? As far as the contenders go the field has been slightly narrowed-(its in no particular order<no not the grand alliance >) Daughters of Khaine Nighthaunt Idoneth Deepkin Skaven Beasts of Chaos I understand two are technically in the "trash" tier. Back when oldhammer and it's 2 hour set up for a 1 hour game existed I did play Dark Elves and Vampire Counts( don't wanna look at zombies anymore). Looking more for advice with 3.0 as to what's good/bad about each, general starting price point(approx). And if you're going to fly the "army x is vastly superior flag" lore please. That tips the scales abit for me. (Note I did consider FeC in the past but the models were irrirtating) Thank you all in advance