Libertarians & immigration - Donald J. Boudreaux (Sept. 12, 2007)

Would it be sensible to argue that, because each private-property owner has the right to regulate what is said on his property, government in our less-than-libertarian world should have the power to regulate speech uttered in public places or over public airwaves?

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The thing is, how do you justify collective action in removing immigrants without justifying collective action in other areas? I thought Walter Block's critique was pretty solid: Hoppy is just specially pleading for collective solutions to immigration policy, while trying to remain anti-statist elsewhere.

Note, also, how Clark has been brought to this shameful point of having locked himself into a measured, prepared order of destatization. He has already asserted that we can’t slash the welfare state until we have achieved “full employment”; he now adds that we can’t have free and open immigration until we eliminate the welfare state. And so it goes; the “gradualists” lock us permanently into the status quo of statism.

Murray Rothbard, “The Clark Campaign: Never Again,” The Libertarian Forum, 1980 https://archive.is/M7sAm

On Free Immigration and Forced Integration and Kinsella. Though Kinsella has stated that he is Pro-Immigration and Pro-Open Borders.

It's the libertarian version of "who will build the roads" that get's mocked all the time around here.

So a person is scared of foreigners, therefore we should shut down the border. How does that manifest itself in the current paradigm? Immigration control isn't going to implemented by wise benevolent philosopher kings. It's most like going to hinge on massive increases in governmental power; walls, national ID, massive surveillance of business operations, thousands more enforcement officers. What could go wrong?

To alter a quote from Laurence M. Vance's Christianity, Libertarianism, and the Drug War:

Do you want to live in an authoritarian society? Do you desire an intrusive government? Do you wish for a government that is a nanny state? Do you yearn for government bureaucrats to tell you what you can and cannot do? Do you want to give up your personal and financial privacy? ... Then you should support the War on Drugs immigration control.

Now there's bunch of ancaps advocating that the fruits of my labor be expropriated to violently prevent me from associating with individuals I may want to hire, rent too, or just have a BBQ with.