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this is definitely an unpopular opinion, and itā€™s an opinion I really tried not to have, but here goes:

THIS IS NOT A MIN HATEPOST I JUST DISLIKE HOW SHEā€™S WRITTEN IN THE LATER BOOKS

Min is maybe the most poorly written character out of all of those that we see regularly. She started off as an amazing, interesting character with her own motivations and a cool personality, but it feels like the only thing sheā€™s done in the last however-many books is sit next to Rand and go ā€œšŸ„ŗ Rand youā€™re so amazing, šŸ„ŗ Rand Iā€™m so worried about you, šŸ„ŗ Rand Iā€™ll do whatever I can for youā€ and itā€™s so annoying!!

I donā€™t think sheā€™s a bad character, just that the romance is written terribly and she lost everything that made her interesting and unique, and now it feels like sheā€™s a doll with no personality or motivation other than being near Rand.

Even the characters that get a lot of hate - Egwene and Gawyn lol - have some kind of motivation outside of just wanting to bone each other all the time.

I hope in the rest of ToM/AMoL, Minā€™s study of the Pattern is more of a focus, since in my memory itā€™s basically the only time in at least 3 or 4 books where she actually seemed like an independent character with thoughts in her head. And it makes me sad because she had such potential to be a really cool character!!!!

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Yes!!!! I love love love that sheā€™s a main character and the only one of the main women who canā€™t channel, it adds so much to her and I feel like there was such a missed opportunity to really emphasize how people gain power without the One Power. I agree she just gets the short end of the stick because there are so many POVs to cover.

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I apologize if thatā€™s how my post came across! I didnā€™t intend to criticize Min as a character or say that it was bad for her to care for Rand. It was just frustrating and sad to see her go from being written as a multifaceted, independent character to being written as a one-dimensional sap whose only purpose was to moon over Rand and say everything he did was perfect even when Rand himself was acknowledging that he did something wrong. Itā€™s totally possible to have a character care about another character without making them lose their entire personality, but the way Min is written in the later books makes her lose everything that makes her interesting.

At least in my opinion, the little bits about Min doing research donā€™t outweigh the many scenes where sheā€™s doing nothing except simpering over Rand or sleeping in his bed or clinging onto him. RJ didnā€™t portray her as well as he could have, and it sucks because she had the potential to be an amazing character.

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I absolutely agree with you! The thing thatā€™s really frustrating is that her research gets such short shrift whenever we have her POV or the POV of someone around her. We know that sheā€™s doing research and that sheā€™s intelligent and will find something super important, but we barely see it because in 99% of the events where sheā€™s present, sheā€™s fawning over Rand.

Again, this isnā€™t a criticism of Min, itā€™s a criticism of how sheā€™s written in the later books. Too much weight is given to her being in love with Rand, and way too little on Min as a character with independent motivations and a personality.

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No worries about the long answer itā€™s great!! The best thing about this series is how everyone reads it a little differently depending on who they are and everyone likes different characters for different reasons. Thereā€™s nothing better than hearing other opinions, if everyone felt the same way then WOT wouldnā€™t be the epic that it is.

I didnā€™t really think about the effect Min had on softening Rand but youā€™re totally right. I think sheā€™s a super super valuable character (and plus no spoilers & I havenā€™t read it but someone said she gets an amazing plot line in AMoL) so hopefully when I reread the series I can look at her with a different mindset.

It does feel like many of the characters get Flanderized & boiled down to their ā€œstereotypicalā€ personality traits by the end of the series, which is maybe because there are soooo many characters that the story is following. Mat & Nynaeve & Egwene (love her or hate her) all develop and become such strong characters, but others become pretty one-dimensional like you said. Itā€™s absolutely not just Min, I just made this post after an especially frustrating chapter :p

sorry this was also long!

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