I just started playing the '21 season update a few weeks ago and have played the crap out of it since. I decided to completely stop playing that pile of garbage though and looking at the posts here, I don't have to explain why I hate it to the core already.

I'm wondering though if there is a PES out there that doesn't consist of only broken gameplay and mechanics.

What I mean specifically is that my friend described PES as a game where "flashy Fifa bullsh*t doesn't work and you actually have to rely on tactics". I'm a long time fifa player and I definitely understand what he means by flashy Fifa play so I thought I'd give PES a shot since I enjoy tactical play more than flashy play as well. For the sake of my blood pressure I wish I would have never tried PES 2021.

That aside though I was curious if any of you have played a PES without the shortcomings of '21 that involves more of the tactical kind of soccer and if so, which one you recommend.

Thanks in advance for any input!