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Okay, so I pulled the screenshot of the hole in the roof from a newscast from 2006, and i really want to talk about the physics of this impact
borrowing from this post from u/lettingpeopleknow
Belvedere roof theory problems:
- he would have had to been going ~12 mph laterally to get to where the hole is had he jumped off the Belvedere (i agree with their methods, so I'm going to keep their numbers). this forward energy/momentum doesn't stop when he jumps off, so...
- That hole is roughly person-sized (can't tell dimensions very well from the vid) and almost circular. if he had been travelling 12 mph laterally, the hole should be elongated and (i would think) there should be blood and gore all over the far side of the hole, because whether he went foot or head-first, the second half of his body to enter the roof should have slammed into the roof once his lateral momentum was arrested as his body created the hole (you ever see someone skid and kind of belly-flop into water? same idea). none of this is evident in the pictures we see. now it's possible that the rain and the elements could have washed away blood/gore by the time this pic was taken, but it doesn't explain why the hole is a circle and not an oval
- the placement of the objects on the roof. if they came out of his pockets while he was falling, they should not have landed in roughly the same place as him. physics suggests that these objects (especially the flip-flops) would have landed somewhere along his trajectory between the rooftop and impact point, not at the impact point, and certainly not in as good as condition as they were (1 i might've believed, but both the phone and the glasses being pristine?)
carpark roof theory issues:
- i've seen various theories on here about how he could have had gotten the distance, but they all run into the same problems as the jump from the Belvedere--namely, where's the evidence of that lateral energy
- if he had come off the car park would he have even had enough vertical speed to puncture the roof, as it's only 20 feet of height difference? granted, i'm not sure about the construction standards of the roof in question, but, to me, it seems more likely that at a height of 20 feet he wouldn't have gotten all the way through the roof, instead pancaking out on top of it
helicopter theory issues:
i've seen this theory bandied around, but i think people are really underestimating the difficulty of doing this. in order for this to be plausible (and for it to be deliberate on the placement of his body) they would have had to pull into a hover almost directly over the building. now i know people say that they just tune out the helicopters in Baltimore, but there is a very large difference in the noise levels of a hovering helicopter and one just passing by. surely someone would have noticed that. if the helicopter had been in the forward flight regime (just passing by) then hitting that roof is like shooting a bullseye with a blindfold on--helos are unstable platforms at best. it's nothing like in the movies, it's incredibly difficult to hit anything smaller than a football field by just dropping it. not to mention forward flight brings in all the same problems with lateral velocity that jumping off either of the roofs does. Having the helo hover higher so that it's not as disruptive doesn't make sense either because it becomes increasingly difficult to aim the higher you go
Which brings me to the only theory that i can make sense of...the body was staged in the room and the hole in the roof was made separately (likely by some sort of small explosive device) and then his accessories were staged around the hole
these are just my thoughts on it, but i'd be interested if anyone has a different take on how that hole got so round. i'd also be interested to know if they actually measured the hole to see if his shoulders would have even fit through. thanks
I just don’t understand why any would go thru the trouble of staging all this, especially professional killers. Seems more trouble than its worth. The act of this staging seems to be tied with a higher chance of getting caught than the murder itself. If they just wanted to get rid of remains and hide a crime, there must be easier ways. Unless the goal was to have the body be found and to confuse people as part of some bigger plan or game, which just seems too out there.
could a car have rammed him off the roof of the parking lot? Maybe that would have contributed to velocity and distance of fall
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Yea i think that would explain injuries that don’t align with impact of fall. And i guess I don’t believe that the fall had to be perfectly straight. I’m imagining an arch-like trajectory from roof to hole, like a rainbow. Maybe he was running away from a big SUV that sped up to hit him and launched him right at the edge of the roof, sending him flying.