Hey friends,

Just played a 52 minute game that we barely squeaked a win out of because I just sort of sighed and said "fine I'll group." Kept trying to get them to group as four and let me split but they just started raging at me: "shut the fuck up I'm muting you." (Note: I was being extremely civil, never raged or called them dumb or anything, just said "hey guys if you group as four bot I can split top and we'll get some objectives." That's about as aggressive as I got).

The moment they grouped as four while I was splitting top we took two turrets and killed 2 of their team, but then they just all decided to group mid and get exactly nothing accomplished while they pissed smiley-faces in the dirt or something. Eventually I just grouped and we pulled it out but this is never ideal with Tryndamere. It didn't help that the enemy team had a Zilean that decided he was going to make my life a living nightmare. (Seriously fuck that champion).

Just wondering how you guys handle this kind of situation - just suck it up and group? Seek other objectives like deny enemy jungle and split bot for dragon pressure? Keep splitting and hope for the best? Something else? Most groups understand Trynd is gonna sit top/bot and whack towers all game, but sometimes you get groups like this that are just stubborn as hell and determined to keep forcing fights and shit, and it's frustrating. Any help appreciated.

Sorry if this gets posted here a lot. I checked the rules for a "commonly posted" and didn't see anything.