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If a man gets a woman pregnant and he wants to keep it but she chooses to abort it⌠he has no choice. Which should be respected. Itâs her body.
Similarly, I think itâs only fair to say that if a woman wants to keep the baby and the man has no interest in being a father, as long as he gives her money to foot the bill for the abortion, he should be off the hook for child support and being in the childâs life.
I know this is wild to most of you, but consider that men who donât want to be fathers, would be terrible fathers anyways. So why would you want them in the childâs life?
Also, itâs her body, her choice. She can choose to have the baby, or choose to have the abortion. But the man shouldnât be roped into whatever choice she makes. If she chooses abortion and he doesnât agree, well⌠tough luck pal, itâs not your body.
But if she choose to keep it and he doesnât agree, well then once again, itâs not your body. Let her keep the kid.
But the man shouldnât be obligated to anything more than paying the cost of an abortion.
Commence le downvotes.
Edit: No Iâm not a republican in the least bit. I think women should have the right to abortions.
And if she can choose to end the pregnancy and not be a mother, and he doesnât get a sayâŚ. Then she shouldnât get a say if he chooses to not be a father.
Itâs very fair.
Edit 2: So what if heâs legally obligated to pay the price of the abortion?
Or maybe he gets the hospital bill for the birth?
Is that more equitable?
Edit 3: Most of the people opposed, seem to be embittered women who resent men as a whole, whose arguments are based on hypocrisy fallacies with double standards. The few who brought up solid points.. it was entertaining civil discourse to say the least.
I cherry picked ideas form The thread for a new system:
Woman gets pregnant. She is legally obligated to notify the man.
The man is then legally obligated to pay an escrow service for the child, to opt out.
If the woman decides to have the kid, she is entitled to the money, so long as it was actually his genetics that created the child.
He forfeits his rights to be in the kids life.
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
âYou are responsible for your own bodyâ doesnât hold true when the woman can keep the baby against the manâs wishes and use his body as a vessel for child support payments for 18 years
âMy body my choiceâ until itâs a man making choices about using his body for physical labor
What the fuck are you talking aboutđ¤Ł
Things men can do to avoid getting someone pregnant: wear condom, get fixed
Things women can do to avoid getting pregnant: make the male wear a condom, get fixed, birth control pills/shots/IUD
Your comment is implying that itâs easier for a man to avoid impregnating someone than it is for a woman to avoid getting impregnated when women have the exact same options men do and then some more
Seems like youâre âmy body, my choiceâ unless it a man being forced to provide for a child that he didnât want but wasnât given the same safety blanket as the woman
âWear a condom or get a surgical procedureâ seems pretty equal to both sides aside from rare exceptions such as rape
Either youâre admitting you have a double standard or youâre admitting that you would tell a woman âwear a condom or get fixedâ if she got pregnant in a state without abortion
Which one is it?
The solution is paper abortions where the man has to tell the woman by a certain time that he doesnât want it
The man and the woman are both doing labor to provide for the child, but the woman wanted it and the man didnât
Woman doesnât want child = abortion
Man doesnât want child = woman forces him to give her money for 18 years
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So we land back at the crux of the issueâŚ
If woman doesnât want kid but man does? Tough shit, she got an abortion
If man doesnât want kid but woman does? Tough shit, you now are responsible financially for 18 years
âMy body my choiceâ is the argument for abortions yet the womanâs choice gets to dictate what the man does with his body for 18 years to provide for a child he didnât want