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If a man offers to pay for an abortion and the woman refuses, he should be off the hook for child support
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If a man gets a woman pregnant and he wants to keep it but she chooses to abort it… he has no choice. Which should be respected. It’s her body.

Similarly, I think it’s only fair to say that if a woman wants to keep the baby and the man has no interest in being a father, as long as he gives her money to foot the bill for the abortion, he should be off the hook for child support and being in the child’s life.

I know this is wild to most of you, but consider that men who don’t want to be fathers, would be terrible fathers anyways. So why would you want them in the child’s life?

Also, it’s her body, her choice. She can choose to have the baby, or choose to have the abortion. But the man shouldn’t be roped into whatever choice she makes. If she chooses abortion and he doesn’t agree, well… tough luck pal, it’s not your body.

But if she choose to keep it and he doesn’t agree, well then once again, it’s not your body. Let her keep the kid.

But the man shouldn’t be obligated to anything more than paying the cost of an abortion.

Commence le downvotes.

Edit: No I’m not a republican in the least bit. I think women should have the right to abortions.

And if she can choose to end the pregnancy and not be a mother, and he doesn’t get a say…. Then she shouldn’t get a say if he chooses to not be a father.

It’s very fair.

Edit 2: So what if he’s legally obligated to pay the price of the abortion?

Or maybe he gets the hospital bill for the birth?

Is that more equitable?

Edit 3: Most of the people opposed, seem to be embittered women who resent men as a whole, whose arguments are based on hypocrisy fallacies with double standards. The few who brought up solid points.. it was entertaining civil discourse to say the least.

I cherry picked ideas form The thread for a new system:

Woman gets pregnant. She is legally obligated to notify the man.

The man is then legally obligated to pay an escrow service for the child, to opt out.

If the woman decides to have the kid, she is entitled to the money, so long as it was actually his genetics that created the child.

He forfeits his rights to be in the kids life.

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

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So we land back at the crux of the issue…

If woman doesn’t want kid but man does? Tough shit, she got an abortion

If man doesn’t want kid but woman does? Tough shit, you now are responsible financially for 18 years

“My body my choice” is the argument for abortions yet the woman’s choice gets to dictate what the man does with his body for 18 years to provide for a child he didn’t want

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“You are responsible for your own body” doesn’t hold true when the woman can keep the baby against the man’s wishes and use his body as a vessel for child support payments for 18 years

“My body my choice” until it’s a man making choices about using his body for physical labor

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What the fuck are you talking about🤣

Things men can do to avoid getting someone pregnant: wear condom, get fixed

Things women can do to avoid getting pregnant: make the male wear a condom, get fixed, birth control pills/shots/IUD

Your comment is implying that it’s easier for a man to avoid impregnating someone than it is for a woman to avoid getting impregnated when women have the exact same options men do and then some more

Seems like you’re “my body, my choice” unless it a man being forced to provide for a child that he didn’t want but wasn’t given the same safety blanket as the woman

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“Wear a condom or get a surgical procedure” seems pretty equal to both sides aside from rare exceptions such as rape

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Either you’re admitting you have a double standard or you’re admitting that you would tell a woman “wear a condom or get fixed” if she got pregnant in a state without abortion

Which one is it?

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The solution is paper abortions where the man has to tell the woman by a certain time that he doesn’t want it

The man and the woman are both doing labor to provide for the child, but the woman wanted it and the man didn’t

Woman doesn’t want child = abortion

Man doesn’t want child = woman forces him to give her money for 18 years

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