We are hoping to be an option for lifestyle trip promoters.

Currently, two couples meet at the pool at Hedo (for example), and discuss how they all four were STD tested the week before, that conversation is utterly meaningless.

None of them know what they were tested for. None of their tests were likely comprehensive, and probably quite different from each other.

OTOH, if they were all tested by Shameless Care before their trip, they would all know what that means.

We’re working hard every day to make that a reality.

Congrats for standing up for yourself!

Hopefully you will now. That's why we exist. Even if you never use our service.

Interestingly, there is no research on how easily these bacterial infections spread. We’ve looked. If you know of some, please pass it along!

In general, I agree with you, but in my case, my wife didn’t have gonorrhea at all.

I would have also assumed that I would have given it to myself genitally from spit, but no.

Oral infections often clear themselves. At least more readily than genital infections.

It would be fascinating to test a large population of swingers both orally and genitally.

Actually, if you read our website you’ll find that we don’t scare anyone. We are very sex positive.

In fact, almost anyone would be far less concerned about STDs after reading our guidebook than they did before reading it.

I created the company, and think people should fuck as much as they care to, whenever they like.

Most of these infections are easily curable, and more rare than you may assume. ✌️

People can usually get STD tested for only a $20 co-pay and a day's worth of their time. If people educate themselves and fight for what they want - it often works out. But often the doctor is so uneducated on STDs (or doesn't know about oral sex?) that it's impossible to get throat swabbed even when you beg. I bet 90 plus % of the people reading this have been STD tested, but blood and urine only. I've seen people on Reddit recommend STDCheck.com before, which is awesome, if you never have oral sex. :-)

A blood test isn’t sufficient to test for gonorrhea and chlamydia or trich.

Any reasonably effective comprehensive std panel should include swabs, blood and urine.

https://www.cdc.gov/std/gonorrhea/stdfact-gonorrhea.htm

Well there’s more to life than avoiding STDs. You can make sex so “safe” that no one wants to have it.

TBH, condoms don’t do what people think they do. The viral risks from typical “swinger” sex is quite low.

People have learned that condoms = “safe sex.” That’s so engrained throughout adolescence that it’s taken as a biblical truth.

We’re all going to die of something absolutely horrific, but it’s not going to be gonorrhea or herpes. So enjoy yourselves. ❤️

I think that's awesome. Our service is only in the United States.

"Scam," it is not.

Someone else said that too. I think our IT person blocked access from outside the USA. Just a guess?

If you’re in the USA, it’s just shameless care dot com

There are not many sexual health clinics. The ones that do exist are free for lower income folks, and extremely expensive for middle and upper class. At least around here in the Chicago area.

You are correct that MANY physicians do know a lot about sexual health. Just not many.

That sounds fair, honestly. Did they do a throat swab? Test for trich?

Within 120 days we hope to have a "at the lab" option which will seriously reduce costs. One thing at at time.

Check this widget out, and see what it recommends for a year long monitoring program.

https://shamelesscare.com/std-testing/customized-continuous-std-monitoring/

Not arguing, but reiterating. They are often asymptomatic orally.

So just because none of your friends has ever had oral g/c, it may be because they’ve never been tested.

Oral gonorrhea is harder to treat. The CDC (USA) recommends oral gonorrhea be retested after treatment to ensure its gone. Whereas that’s not necessary for genital.

Your nation’s health experts may disagree. I’m not sure.

Good conversation

Good points. Doesn’t sound like you’re in the USA, otherwise I’d have you download our guidebook. Coauthored by an MD and entirely sourced.

I didn’t include sources in a Reddit post, you are correct.

Gonorrhea and chlamydia are extremely common, and since they are bacteria, they are easily transmissible. Here in the USA, most swingers do not use barrier protection during oral sex. That’s anecdotal, but I’ve never ever once seen a dental dam FWIW.

It’s reasonable to assume that bacterial oral infections are the most common based upon behavior and prevalence, but I do not know that for certain - You are correct.

HIV and Heps are much more difficult to contract during piv sex than people realize. The CDC estimates 11 out of 10,000 exposures. That is if 10,000 women had sex with 10,000 HIV positive men (No condoms), roughly 11 would be infected.

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/estimates/riskbehaviors.html

Many swingers are more concerned about infecting others than being infected themselves.

I had gonorrhea. It was painless and the treatment was cheap and effective. No big deal. No shame. No pain.

I don’t want to be an unknowing carrier again. ❤️

It’s awesome that you have that resource! 👏 You should definitely keep using that as opposed to ours.

Not much research needed. A throat swab is the test for pharyngeal gonorrhea and chlamydia ❤️

I’m not arguing with you. Not my style. So I won’t reply again for fear it will sound like that.

In my case - I did pass it to someone who wasn’t my spouse. In communities, you want to test all possible infection areas.

If you want to criticize our company, I’d do so for not having anal swabs. We couldn’t get them without HPV as well, and they were extremely expensive.

We have both PhD and MD on our team. Throat swabs are absolutely a best practice.

I’m much more comfortable with someone’s STD tests from two months ago than from a year ago.

Nothing is perfect, short of quarantine and testing weeks after each sexual exposure. You are correct about that.

However, these infections last indefinitely without treatment, and sometimes have no symptoms or light symptoms.

Further, many of these infections significantly increase one’s risk of things like HIV.

So routine screenings are important, even if imperfect. ❤️

Lots of questions! Yet not a single one of your questions sound sincere. So I won’t bother feeding into your faux outrage any longer.

Must have you blocked because we don’t sell outside of the United States. My apologies.

Our IT guy may have blocked other countries? Not sure why he would do that. I’ll get you a link to the pdf and see if that opens.

Does this work? https://shamelesscare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/YCPLAUNCH.pdf

All of your comments so far have been about how std should be “free” and calling even relatively inexpensive std testing like planned parenthood outrageous…so no, I don’t see the point.

You’re well on the record. Healthcare should be socialized, etc. I neither agree or disagree, but it’s not relevant here in the USA.

Many people in the United States spend $10,000 to $50,000 a year swinging. These tests are a rounding error on that. For those on a smaller budget, I hope they learn from our guidebooks and find testing elsewhere. Maybe from a subsidized clinic?

We make our online widget accessible and even encourage people to screenshot the results and see about getting much or all of that testing elsewhere.

At home tests are not inexpensive. It’s the most discrete (but costly) way someone can get tested.

Finally, all of the packages are different and are based upon peoples risk profiles.

❤️

Shoot me a message and I’ll explain

Trying to send you a DM. I use Reddit like once every year so can’t figure it out. LOL