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We are planning a roll in the next few weeks and fishing for some info.
We have had some great nights just on MDMA, and they are always nice - sensual, horny, lovey etc but were starting to lack that something extra . We dialled back the dosage after a few tries at quite high dosages, as the higher doses were better for the trippy side and rushy body load, but causing the missus heavy comedowns for days after. Fortunately, I never suffered to bad afterwards - just suffering the dreaded intermittent stim dick on higher doses.
The last couple of rolls we added 4mmc, at roughly 50/50 mix - using the gold standard MDMA dosing and redose schedule. This combo was greatā¦ it upped the horniness a huge amount and added an animalistic edge but also had the longer roll of MDMA. No real negatives and the missus was super amped, filthy and into everything. She was super wet and my performance was pretty damn porn like to be fair.. although she must take a lot of the credit for that. The following days come down were not too bad for her either. The last one we added some GHB but either didnāt get dosages right or had poor quality gear as it brought nothing new to the flight.
So cut to now - We have never done 4mmc on its own, and my question is for those that have dabbled with these two is if there is anything we are missing by doing the combo?
Is the 4mmc better on its own? What to expect for her? Body load? Better rushes? Amped horniness? We like mild trippy with wobbly visuals etc, but not too keen on strong psychedelic āthings not thereā kind of trippy.
Iāve researched a fair amount on here and know that 4mmc is fiendish, and that is something we never really got when doing it with MDMA although I suppose our 4mmc dosage was quite low for many folk.
Any experience and advice appreciated as we donāt roll that often, and havenāt the time to keep trial and error for that sweet spotā¦
What was 4mmc dosing per cap? We usually go for 2.5mg/ kg body weight for mdma and when we did the combo it was same dosage, just split 50/50 for the mdma and 4mmc.
The wife was 70mg MDMA & 70mg 4mmc, and redosed once we came up fully at 50mg each - she weighs 50 kg. That was good for her.
I was pretty much double that dosage and weigh 75 kgs. I took another bomb after a couple of hours and that was just 4mmc.
All doses were bombed in a cigarette paper.
Are they not that available in the US? I am surprised as I would have thought there was quite a market for them, they are a nice alternative for stimulants.
Before it gets banned? Does that mean it is still a legal high?
The short duration on its own is one of my worries with it having read a little on it. I understand it is a little like coke, in that your buzz pretty much falls off a cliff, hence the fiendish nature to redose until itās all gone!!
The MDMA combo definitely prolongs the roll, but I was wondering if there is a downside that we are missing something from the 4mmc by doing the MDMA. I may try just upping the 4mmc dose, but a little scared for the missus the days after as she struggles with the come downs. (It can literally leave her laying on the sofa for 2 days if we go heavy)
As for the 2cb - I did try it towards the end of a one of our MDMA rolls a while back but didnāt get any effect at all. They were little pressed pills so had no idea the strength, did one and no effect and didnāt fancy necking another just in case it all came at once and sent me trippy as fuck.. like I said, we like mild but I hate to strong a trip. ( havenāt touched LSD since I was young š¤£)
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Thanks for the reply - some good food for thought.
I cannot seem to find 2cb in powder, only the pills in various claimed dosages, but usually 25mgs. I guess one way would be to buy a batch, crush it down to powder and work out the dosage from there. A lot of playing around but might yield a consistent result if I can dial in the dosages.
As for the GHB - I have 50ml of a fresh batch I havenāt tried yet. It is a lot more watery than my last batch, which was much more oily and viscous. The oily batch was underwhelming but to be honest, I didnāt know the concentration and kept on the safe side as was wary of the effects if not respected. This new batch is salty but thin. I will have to try to dial in a dosage while sober - and go from there. As for making my own GHB, we are UK based so it might be possible although would take some effort and research on my part.
I think 2cb GHB could work for us as getting the right headspace and mood etc is not a problem. We are already āthereā, so to speak just in anticipation of the night ahead.. just need the chemical helping hand to lift it up.
Again, thanks for the info - wishing you happy rolls and buzz nights.