And the woman dating over 40 subreddit they are all agreeing with each other about how women declined in ice cream date/ coffee date Women has the rights to decline any date they want but what's concerning is that so many women on that feed agree That it's low effort. Which is strange. Nearly in all countries around the world coffee and ice cream dates are the standard. The most romantic cities coffee or expresso is the standard for a first date. The places where women are statistically the happiest coffee dates are the standard. In old movies and media coffee dates are the standard. But considering the subreddit where women who are over 40 with no luck in lo dating are gathering Maybe you should look at what has worked for a lot of people? I mean countries with lower divorce rates and more sex and happier relationships I can tell you that they look forward to a coffee date. On the second or third date yes definitely maybe put in just a little bit more investment. But men and some women are definitely right to not want to invest more when you just meet

Barrack and Michelle first date was baskin Robbins.

Prince Harry wanted to meet megan at a coffee shop but couldn't because he was royalty Tom Hanks first date with Rita was a movie( my lady friend tells me movies are low effort too) John legend didn't pay for the date. And almost bankrupted Chrissy in their first date.

In fact I believe that women with decline or reject a lot of the married men they idolize.

The fact is the dinner themselves are not good a good indicator of how much they will treat you right. It just means that they're able to eat food. Maybe pay for it. Maybe will take you home.

Don't take what a man is willing to give you as an indicator of what he's willing to do for you or treat you.

But the fact is women take this personally. Why is it a negative perfection of how someone use you. Why do you think you deserve more about someone truly knowing you?