What role have drugs played in your life?

"One of them is, they certainly helped me to see more . . . or have the sensation of seeing more. I guess part of the hallucinogenics or psilocybin . . . the hallucinations or feelings one has. Sitting in a field, hearing and feeling and looking at nature, seeing what comes out of oneself. Having parts of the psyche revealed. They've certainly given me the sensation of an enrichening aspect, appreciating . . . . "

Did you ever discover any drugs you weren't prepared to take that chance with?

"No, I never had that clichéd bad trip. But I haven't done that many drugs."

Are they ruled out of your life at this stage?

"Um, once in a blue moon."

He talks about the relationship between drugs and the government, how experimentation could be allowed without people risking harm by doing "too much of a good thing."

Have you ever felt you were doing too much of a good thing?

"Yeah, I've had a couple of days when I've been, 'OK, time to chill out.' But that has also brought about catharsis. That is one of the human emotions – to go to the dark side, to go to the light."

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