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The argument Iâm going to be making in this essay is that⌠if boycotts can be an important element to political movement building and I think boycotts are in the case of the legal animal rights movement; then The Vegan Society were irresponsible for trying to come up with various sectarian definitions for a way of life which people already had a colloquial definition for, in that these are people who participate in âan animal products boycottâ, and some of them go further with other tactics in being âlegal animal rights advocatesâ.
Like the word libertarian, the positive original vision has been obscured or run away with entirely. As libertarian used to stand for the democratization of the means of production, so enlightenment liberalism or left-anarchism.Â
I donât know if itâs productive to push for my preferred explanation of veganism as the most universally useful one going forward, but here are my thoughts on all the ones that I know of.
Finally, Iâll keep updating this post with more information, so feel free to suggest any edits youâd make.
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Colloquial VeganismÂ
âA person who does not eat any food derived from animals and who typically does not use other animal products.â
Ethical Foundation: First & foremost a practice, like how âheroismâ means to âact bravelyâ, so the principle reason why someone is colloquially a vegan would be contained within a separate identity like what it necessarily means to be a âlegal animal rights advocateâ.
Pros: Clear & simple implications and fairly historically accurate to why the vegan society came about. Has broader appeal for other liberation causes like anti-racism and anti-sexism to see it as a strategy of action which is useful for their struggles also.
Cons: I would prefer the word boycott be mentioned, to make explicit itâs a campaign tactic and to leave room for combination practices like freeganism.
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Originalist Vegan Society Veganism
âThe doctrine that man should live without exploiting animalsâ
Ethical Foundation: Deontological principle.
Pros:
Cons: Unclear & complicated implications, as it immediately brings to mind the plenty of ways we can pragmatically rescue animals and improve their circumstances while still less obviously exploitative-ly keeping them captive, e.g. rescuing dogs, chickens or horses. And excludes all other ethical systems.
Plus not historically accurate to why the vegan society came about as it didnât represent all the membersâ reasons for creating the society 7 years earlier, and neither did it represent the 100 year old anarchist history that founded the very vegetarian society in London which the vegan society grew out of, and finally neither did it represent the diversity of philosophies over the 1000 or more year old history going all the way back to ancient India for why people desired to live that way of life.
The debates that lead up to the creation of the vegan society were about the dairy industry. They were raised equally from a concern about well-being and about rights:
Dr. Anna Bonus Kingsford, a member of the Vegetarian Society in 1944 argued for a total boycott of animal products, saying â[the dairy industry] must involve some slaughter I think and some suffering to the cows and calves.â
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Modern Vegan Society Veganism
âVeganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to excludeâas far as is possible and practicableâall forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.âÂ
Ethical foundation: Treats veganism as a principle to advocate for with potentially maximalist behavioural commitment & sectarian philosophy.
Pros:
Cons: It creates a hodge-podge of the two main ethical systems, consequentialism and deontology which is far too convoluted and open to misinterpretation. You get into debates about what does âas far as is possible and practicableâ mean if you can simply build a lower-tech society that harms less animals in the short-term, when you could just say veganism is a boycott. If you arenât capable of participating for being eating disordered for example, thatâs ok, you can be ethically on par with or more ethical than a vegan in your own way, but you just arenât able to participate in the boycott.
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Pro-Intersectional Veganism
âthe practice of opposing speceisism through taking direct action and lobbying the government in collaboration with other social justice political movementsâ
Ethical foundation: Universal justice principle.
Pros: I have nothing against this as the promotion of a style of critique not often seen, like black anarchism and anarchafeminism, it can simply help identify the person as someone who has been able to have the time to research the ways sexism and racism can overlap with speceisism.
Cons: How did the term come about? Why is the syllable âvegâ like vegetable being attached to an â-ismâ to mean an ideology, wouldnât it make more sense for the ethical principle to be contained in what it means to be a âlegal animal rights advocateâ?
Further reading:
- Speciesism Isnât What You Think It Is w. Marine & Nix by The Vegan Vanguard Podcast
- Intersectional Veganism Made Simple â ModVegan
- Yes to Intersectionality, Boo to Intersectional Vegans
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Rewilding Veganism
âA personal duty to respect the dignity of animals & a desire to build a social movement to, among other things, lobby government for a higher percentage territory of managed wildlife habitat.â
Ethical foundation: A virtue ethics principle.
Pros: Simply explains a basic strategy for winning over enough passionate people who are dedicated enough to take on the personal principle of avoiding animal products, as a basis for finding each other and organizing to make changes to our communities and institutions.
Cons: Duty & dignity arenât going to be strong motivators for consequentialists to take on the lifestyle who we need to put in the work of transforming their communities by starting vegan cafes, etc. So a sectarian philosophy which would be better contained in the explanation of a type of rewilding concerned legal animal rights advocate.
Further reading: Response Video to âVeganism vs. Animal Liberationâ
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Animal Liberation Veganism
âThe principle of the emancipation of non-human animals from human animals; animal liberationâ
Ethical foundation: Universal principle.
Pros: No issue as itâs own identity i.e. âan animal liberation activistâ, just not when itâs confused with the one true explainer of what a vegan is.
Cons: Sectarian to people who consider themselves part of reformist & revolutionary political movements fighting for the constitutionally protected legal rights or welfare of animals.
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Anti-Natalist Veganism
âThe absence of suffering is more important than the presence of pleasure, so we ought to reduce or avoid causing suffering where practicable. Which includes a way of living which seeks to excludeâas far as is possible and practicableâall forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals.â
Ethical Foundation: Often negative utilitarian, but sometimes universal by other definitions. People advocate the sectarian philosophy & behaviour of anti-natalism, then advocate veganism as a subset of that sectarian philosophy & behaviour.
Pros: n/a
Cons: False to the extent this is an empirical claim about developmental psychology & a sectarian philosophy which simply harms the abillity to recruit people to either boycott animal products or engage in any other tacticts for securing legal animal rights.
Further Reading: Benatar, Imendham, etc.
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Liberation Pledge Veganism
âThe principle that man should live without exploiting animals therefore man should not stand by while something violent is happening.â
Ethical foundation: Deontological principle where people refuse to eat animals, refuse to sit where animals are being eaten & encourage others to take the pledge.
Pros: Right idea of not doing the action in secret and being open about it so as to be able to find others to persue other campaign strategies with.
Cons: Bad idea to put pressure on yourself or others to avoid situations where you could be developing closer bonds with people and improving your work situation in life in order to better advocate to others.
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Veganarchism
Veganarchism is the political philosophy of veganism (more specifically animal liberation) and anarchism, creating a combined praxis as a means for social revolution. This encompasses viewing the state as unnecessary and harmful to animals, both human and non-human, whilst practicing a vegan lifestyle.
Ethical Foundation: Universal principle against authoritarianism. Veganarchists either see the ideology as a combined theory, or perceive both philosophies to be essentially the same. It is further described as an anti-speciesist perspective on green anarchism, or an anarchist perspective on animal liberation.
Pros: I have nothing against this as the promotion of a style of critique not often seen, like black anarchism and anarchafeminism, it can simply help identify the person as someone who has been able to have the time to research the ways expertise in building democratic institutions, green architecture and rewilding will help get us to a better world.
Cons: They need to confront primitivists within their ranks who have whether they realise it or not anti-egalitarian prescriptions which acts as a pipeline to moving people over to eco-fascism.
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Freeganism
âFreeganism is a practice and ideology of limited participation in the conventional economy and minimal consumption of resources, particularly through recovering wasted goods like food.â
Ethical Foundation: The word âfreeganâ is a portmanteau of âfreeâ and âveganâ. While vegans might avoid buying animal products as an act of protest against animals being kept in captivity unjustifiably, freegans try to reduce the amount they buy of anything as an act of protest against consumer capitalism in general. Freeganism is often presented as synonymous with âdumpster divingâ for discarded food, although freegans are distinguished by their association with an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist ideology and their engagement in a wider range of alternative living strategies, such as squatting abandoned buildings, guerilla gardening unoccupied land and foraging. Finally one only needs to practice one of these activities part-time to consider themselves freegan.
Pros: Again, nothing against this way of life as a combination of practices.
Firstly it can be great animal rights advocacy in rare circumstances like so; by setting up a Food not Bombs stall in the town centre and putting up a vegan sign in front of a big pan of vegan stew and a freegan sign infront of rescued bread. The vegan sign can provoke lots of interesting conversations about the ethics of breeding and killing animals. While the freegan sign can get people talking about a further layer of if it is true that harming animals for their meat, milk and eggs was necessary to feed the population, how come so very much meat, milk and eggs ended up rotting in supermarket skips instead? Which can provoke further conversation about the evils of producing such an energy intensive product like meat to just become food waste, while people are starving around the world.
Secondly non-human animals we farm donât experience a worse quality of life worrying about whether theyâre going to be eaten by other humans after theyâre dead, humans do as a species norm.
Thirdly there exists healthy human cultures in which humans being eaten by non-human animals after theyâre dead is seen as a positive, for example in Tibet, having your energy transferred into that of a bird is seen as a beautiful thing or green burials where your body can more easily become nutrients for both animals and plants. So then, healthy human cultures in which non-human animals are eaten by humans is also likely possible.
And finally, even if itâll be a better world when everyone is vegan and weâre all disgusted by animals products (in the same way as if no one ever felt pressured by sexist beauty standards to shave their legs again), that doesnât mean that itâs not morally permissible to consume some of those animal products at the moment i.e. itâs not comparable to cannibalism where youâre causing worse quality of life in other humans by normalizing it or normalizing the standard that women should have their genitals mutilated as neither the choice to shave your legs or eat thrown out animal products necessitates violating anyoneâs rights or causing harm to anyone.
Cons: Slippery slope habits are real, so in the same way it can be a benifit in helping someone give up the addiction to animal products like cheese by slowly tapering off, you should be cautious about relying on rescued food items like frozen meals and then feeling ok about eating bought animal products served by friends.
Further Reading:
- Philosophical Vegan Wiki â Freeganism
- Re; âFreeganism Is Evilâ â A Pro-Freegan Story Analogy
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âAbolitionistâ Veganism
âThe principle that man should live without exploiting animals & that all sentient beings, human or nonhuman, have one rightâthe basic right not to be treated as the property of others.â
Ethical Foundation: Deontological Principle.
Pros: Right basic idea about needing to work on building your bases, starting vegan cafes, social centres and housing co-ops for others to be inspired by, rather than only higher welfare legislation that some people can use to feel better about their meat eating.
Cons: In some cases it would simply be good to work with welfare reformists to ensure higher welfare legislation for all animals, like bigger cages at the least. A good reason for doing this would be if it costs more money to produce and becomes less profitable, so fewer animals are being bred to be killed.
Itâs unlikely the agricultural industry can increase the number of people wanting to pay extra for higher welfare meat so dramatically that profits even out, but we can watch out for gimmicks like this on a small scale and avoid working with those companies where weâre simply helping them advertise a product.
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âSimplisticâ Veganism
âVeganism is an ethical way of living that excludes using animals as merely instruments to our ends.â
Ethical foundation: Universal principle.
Pros:
Cons: It immediately brings to mind the plenty of ways we can pragmatically rescue animals and improve their circumstances while still less obviously exploitative-ly keeping them captive, e.g. rescuing dogs, chickens or horses. Although those actions could be argued to be not exploitative, itâs an unnecessary argument to have.
Also, how did the term come about? Why is the syllable âvegâ like vegetable being attached to an â-ismâ to mean an ideology, wouldnât it make more sense for the ethical principle to be contained in what it means to be a âlegal animal rights advocateâ?
Further Reading: Arcowhip Vs Ishkah on the Definition of Veganism
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âAccurateâ Veganism
âVeganism is a way of life that seeks to place the value of animal life, health and liberty above the value of substitutable classes of goods, services and uses derived from animalsâÂ
Ethical foundation: Universal principle.
Pros: Simplicity.
Cons: What it would mean to be vegan under this definition is anyone who would âsubstitute meat in their shopping trolley for vegetablesâ, but I disagree that it has to be because youâre strictly valuing a hypothetical animal that got a chance to live, higher than the one that died to make the animal product which youâre substituting for vegetable products.
I desire to grant guardianship laws to animals to collectively be able to seek refuge in a specific area of wildlife habitat because I can recognize they desire to express their capabilities, having land they can call their territory helps them fulfil this need, and I can recognize if I was born into the world as an animal or severely disabled human I would want access to resources to fulfil my needs.
Another way of saying this could be I place the value of getting to see wildlife in dense wildlife habitat above the value of strip malls, business parks and open cast coal mines.
I donât think I ought to place the value of animal life, health and liberty above the value of substitutable classes of goods, services and uses derived from animals.
So an exception to the rule would be that I donât think Iâm viewing the value for the animal to live in the wild as being higher than the value a sheep would find on a semi-wild farm protected from predators and then turned into a substitutable class of meat towards the end of its life. (Even though I think a fully wild habitat would offer more life for more animals and not slaughtering would offer a more virtuous life for the human).
My argument is simply that we ought to engineer a set of circumstances in which a much higher number of animals are getting to express their capabilities in wildlife habitat. But I donât think that necessarily has to be hashed out to âdoing it for the animalsâ or âbecause Iâm viewing their life in the wild as universally of higher value to ways you could individually treat them as means to an end substitutable classes of goods or services.â Because I wouldnât necessarily.
Further Reading: Debate On How Best To Explain What Veganism Is
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âPragmaticâ Veganism
âA way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as possible, practical, and effective, all exploitation of animals.â
Ethical Foundation: Reducetarian advocate which is a behavioural commitment, then plant based advocate which is a behavioural commitment to be at least 99% abstaining.
Pros:Â
Cons: âReducing sufferingâ is too big, too abstract, too idealistic, beyond the capacity of one person to ever achieve, laudable but doomed to failure. Whereas âboycotting animal productsâ is not. âReducing sufferingâ creates the impression of the martyr, the need to live a ridiculously puritan lifestyle, like Jain monks sweeping the floor everywhere they walk. And excludes all other ethical systems.
Further Reading: Vegans, We Gotta Break Through This 100% Perfect Sh*t
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And finally my own preferred definition:
Veganism As A Boycott Campaign
âAn animal products boycottâ
Ethical Foundation: First & foremost a practice, like how âheroismâ means to âact bravelyâ, so the principle reason why someone is colloquially a vegan would be contained within a separate identity like what it necessarily means to be a âlegal animal rights advocateâ.
Pros: Clear & simple implications and historically accurate to why the vegan society came about. Has broader appeal for other liberation causes like anti-racism and anti-sexism to see it as a strategy of action which is useful for their struggles also. Makes explicit itâs a campaign tactic and leaves room for combination behaviours like freeganism.
Cons: Sometimes less useful definitions still win the day for becoming the most often used, so it may be a useless exercise attempting to convince other people & organisations to use this explanation.
Boycotting can sometimes be confused for only temporarily removing yourself as a customer until some minor business practice has been changed, but the history of boycotting is far more radical. The term has itâs origin in rent and labor strikes against a colonial landlord in Ireland aimed at forcing him to leave. And the dictionairy definition of a boycott is âwithdraw from commercial or social relations with (a country, organization, or person) as a punishment or protest.â The south african apartheid boycott for example was promoted as âboycotting the products of apartheidâ, so protesting appartheid until it was gotten rid of as a style of government. Similarly, the reason for the creation of the vegan society was over debates that we should be promoting the boycott of the animal agriculture industry, so protesting animals kept in captivity unjustifiably, which is a call to eliminate the industry.
Further Reading:Â
- How to simply explain what veganism is & argue for it
- A three tier model for animal advocacy
- Veganism: practice, identity or folly?
- Rethinking Veganism
- Rethink Your Understanding of Veganism
- the ism of veganism
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As for my preferred definition of legal animal rights advocate, itâsâŚ
A person who seeks to gain collective legal rights for non-human animals to have a refuge in dense wildlife habitat where they arenât subject to human cruelty. With the few exceptions where the law is overridden by right to self-defence or special dispensation, for example to practice some scientific testing, as well as breed and keep service dogs to warn people before theyâre going to faint.
With special dispensations, I think itâs important to not to look like dogmatists, so research for example which shows an entertaining movie projected onto the wall of an injured chimpanzees room. As well where weâre fixing them up before releasing them back into their wild habitat & weâre simply tracking their eye movements in order to learn more about them like in the false belief test.
And with service dogs, I can just imagine some worker co-op with 100s of acres, giving dogs the best life, and just doing like a few hours a week rotations where theyâve enjoyed being trained to help people. I wouldnât say itâs possible with any other animals, but as dogs are the one animal to have co-evolved along side humans longer than any other, itâs interesting to think about.
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