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What are options for postwar governance in Gaza?
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US Secretary of State Antony Blinken says Israel needs to have a plan for postwar governance in Gaza. What could that look like? What are Israel's options? What are anyone's options for establishing a govt in Gaza?

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How is the lack of interfaith marriages an evidence of curbing of Arab rights? The same laws apply to both Arabs and Jews.

"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

The marriage situation in Israel is set up to favor Orthodox Judaism broadly.

Can you explain what you mean here? Is it common for ethnic minorities in other countries to form their own state within a state? I.e Can African Americans or Turkish Germans secede from the United States or Germany to form their own state?

The right of self-determination refers, broadly, to the idea that a people have the right to set up their own representative political entity. It doesn't have to be another separate state, it can be any representative governing body.

That right is afforded exclusively to Israeli Jews within Israel.

You don't need to be a Jew to become an Israeli citizen either

But you do need to renounce all other nationalities and making aliyah bypasses the requirements for naturalization.

Israel is an ethnostate.

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I can't imagine they would take the inhabitants without the land.

They may not have a choice. If Israel pushes Gazans over the Egyptian border and tells them "We'll kill you if you cross back," Gazans are going into Egypt.

As for Israel, I'm just unclear on what options they even have. Put aside what we think Israel will or will not do, what do you see as the possible options?

At this point, the Israel is a rogue state. They're not going to internally reform so the rest of the world needs to lock them out until they can refrain from using genocide to get what they want. Offer temporary asylum for Palestinians so they don't have to stay but Israel gets shut off.

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By pointing out that it's not true.

Arab Israelis do not have the same rights. Interfaith marriages are not recognized, the right of self determination is open only to Jewish Israelis, and only Jews have the right of return. The government has no meaningful representation for non-Jewish Israelis either.

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A Roman peace.

That's the only realistic option given Israel's stated intentions.

Gazans will be removed, either to the West Bank or to Egypt, and Gaza will fall wholly under the control of Israel and be annexed as just another part of Israel.

Israel will not allow for any other solution.

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I fundamentally reject this framing.

Israel wants to exist unto itself with no Arabs or Muslims within its borders and that's something that they've made clear many, many times. Their security posture is guaranteed to produce a feedback loop of violence which justifies further clamp downs.

Israel is a colonialist power. There's no getting around that and their complaint is that they're colonizers and they're getting treated that way.

Muslims and Jews lived together in the region for centuries with relatively little problem. This isn't some ancient blood feud or mutually incompatible ideas about the world.

Israel wants land, people are already on that land, Israel wants those people off that land, the people on that land don't want to leave because it's their home, Israel uses violence to take that land, the people on that land use violence in response.

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