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Lesson from a retired PUA Lesson 1
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Hi Everyone,

I was a PUA from 2009 to 2015ish.

I went out 4 days a week every week. Probably from like 1pm to 3am.

I became the leader of a lair in a major US city and got to go on bootcamps with alot of the major MPuas.

I'm now retired in a LTR. This is a series of the biggest lessons I learned that moved my results forward that I would like to pass on.

Any questions I have time for I will answer.

Lesson 1: The Dangers of the Attraction Phase
This lesson speaks especially to those who are going out and getting phone numbers, kisses, some dates, but not consistantly getting laid.

I spent years perfecting attraction. I saw other PUAS spend YEARS learning attraction and never getting laid. At the end I stopped caring about it at all. There is a danger in learning attraction. We tend to think it matters more than it does. Because to men it matters more than it does to women. To women being attracted to you simply means they are willing to give you attention. But not necessarily anything more. All it really means is that a higher % of sets will open for you. Which is good. But if you are less attractive and instead open more sets per night it amounts to the same outcome. Basically you can overcome being less attractive just by opening more sets.

Have a basic opener that you use if all else fails. Never have the excuse that you didn't know what to say. My basic opener was... "Hi my name is Pine, what is yours." Or "Hey can you guess what kind of material my shirt is made out of??? Boyfriend material." The least attractive thing you can do is not open.

It feels good to get positive feedback from beautiful women. And maybe for some of us... it's undoing years of psychological trauma of feeling invisible. But it's not helping you get results. You can spend years getting phone numbers, and kisses, and never get laid. Because its easy to mistake attraction as important to women as it is to us. It's hard to realize that once we are getting success we need to shift directions. And its easy to feel encouraged to keep heading in that direction when we are getting positive feedback that what we are doing is working.

But it's like driving a stick shift. Once you identify attention/attraction immediately you need to shift gears. This means immediately. Be effecient. On the ideal sets I would put 0 effort into attraction.

It would look like this.

Step 1. I open
Step 2. I get immediate attraction/attention
Step 3. I immediately shift into the next phase

Don't spend more time on attraction than you need to.

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Hey these answers were 🔥🔥🔥 I never thought that I would luck into an actual high level dating coach responding. I appreciate you man. Thank you.

I have a follow up question about the phone / texting response. Okay so would you suggest an activity in the first text message you send or just do some meaningless jokes / banter 1st and ease into the date activity? Like what would your first message out be?

Okay, I’ll bite What texts message did you use to convert phone numbers to dates with regularity?

How do you usually get the first kiss?

How many sets would you need to open to get laid?

What did you do to get laid?

Is online dating a complete BS waste of time?

What makes cold approach superior to online dating?

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Do you feel the book magic bullets is helpful?

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Interesting, thanks for the responses. About how many amount of messages in would you wait to suggest a date?

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