Subject: What game really is (not philosophy, some practical shit for you)

I was out with a buddy tonight who I have been trying to help out for a while. He now does a lot of things right, but he still gets poor results. He is now a decent story teller... he is interesting... he makes the girls laugh... his body language is good, but he still fails. So I put myself in his position and thought about how I would be doing things different and one thing became glaringly obvious.

He does not touch, and when he does, his timing is off. I know this sounds pretty obvious, but I would bet so many guys reading this do not do this well. Do you guys know what this game is? All of PU? It is a touching game. It isn't a storytelling game, a BL game, or a banter game. It isn't a verbal game at all. So many guys are always concerned about what they say, but what you say only matters when it is facilitating your touching her. From the beginning to the end, all you want to do is increase the amount of touch. How easy it is to forget this... you open, you talk, you get a number, you make sure you dress right, call at the right time, you do a hundred things but if you don't have touching down right, you will fail.

"Yeah I do this already Chopan"... OK... but are you 100% confident in the "final" touch? when you are with her in bed, are you masterful? confident? not just in the physical aspect but can you "sweep her off her feet" there? because that is where you need to be doing it, not any other place. Even if you are an AFC, you need to know NOW what to do in bed. You can't get caught there and not know what to do. All this other bullshit only leads up to your touch on her body. If you are pretty good, 60%, 70%, 80%, that isn't good enough. That isn't exceptional. You can get laid but you won't keep her. This is where you differentiate yourself from every other guy, this is your FIRST step in "getting" her. Don't do it quickly enough, and you will lose her, no matter how interesting and cool you may seem. All the great LTR's I have had, I have had great sex with her right away. A lot of guys think they fuck well, but they don't. What women tell me and what men tell me never jive. You have to read her well, and fuck every woman a different way. Her way.

Start to see game this way. If all you do isn't facilitating more touch, it doesn't have a whole lot of value.

The difference between my friend and I? 3 seconds in, I am touching the girls. 3 minutes in, I am leaning in and smelling her neck. Do you do this? do you lean in, smell her neck, and then ask "what is that?" Do you do it to gauge her reaction? Do you take her hand and ask about her bracelet, or a ring? Or tell her one finger is too short or too long? Later on, do you pin her on the ground or on a wall and tease her?

I am in line to get into a bar... the girl who is in front of me is freezing cold... I barely know her, she is my friend's friend. I will just tell her: "don't try anything funny"... open my jacket, and pull her into me. Wrap my coat around both of us... we are not even in the bar yet, and we are spooning. No problem... Back at our friend's house... everyone gathers to play cards... we are short a chair... I grab one of the girls... "sit here".... I make her sit on my lap. No problem... I walk into the kitchen... a girl is mixing a drink... I walk next to her, and push her away with my body... she pushes back. She may be a friend's GF, a Buddie's wife, her BF may be sitting in the room... so what? This is who I am. No one ever is surprised, because I establish my touch from moment one.

I have a rule... I will shake a woman's hand when first introduced to me. That is the last time. From then on, she will always get a hug from me. I shake 5 guys' hands goodbye, she holds out hers, and I pull her in and hug her goodbye. If she gives me a strange look when I am about to hug, I smile and say "I only hug women"... she laughs and gives me a great one.

I was recently at the airport. I see a girl waiting at my gate. She has 30 empty seats to each side.... do you guys want to know where I sat? Right next to her. I just dropped my bag, and sat right next to her. I then wait for her reaction. Where I go verbally, depends on her reaction. I am already creating logistics for touch. I really don't care to sit across, then make a "move" to open her. So many guys do this. I never do this. Coffee shop, bookstore, grocery store. I am right there next to her. Sometimes I just look at her. She looks at me. Yes, it creates tension. But if you are in control, tension is your friend. It is only when you are lost that it can turn negative. Nevertheless, it is better to fail right next to her than from 20 feet away.

If I am at a bar, many times my opener is touch. I have walked up to complete strangers... after just a bit of EC from her, I will walk past her to the bathroom and as she is talking to her friends, I will just give her a big smooch on her cheek or neck and keep walking. Never do I get a negative reaction to this. On the way back I will lean in again and as she laughs and leans away I smile and say "I'm sorry, I think got ahead of myself. I'm Chopan". All her friends are laughing and sort of mesmerized by this approach. Last week a girl walked into a bar I was at with a flower in her hair. A lot of guys said various goofy things about it. She kept looking my way. I was walking down the stairs, I grabbed it from her hair, and put it behind my ear... kept walking... as she chased me for it, I ran away. When she caught me, I smiled, and then grabbed her wrist... looked at her.... "come on! we both know it looks better on me!". She laughed but before the first sentence, I had touched her 3 times.

When I am out with a girl, I have played with her hands, foot wrestled her foot under the table, smelled her neck. I have licked her neck and then said "you had a little piece of trash there".... she punches me. Later on when I am closer to her, I will put my tongue in her ear and whisper: "I think there is some kind of dirt in here"...

HB: oh really!! (with a smile)

Chopan: OK I got it

and I go back to conversation as if NOTHING happened. She is still breathing a bit heavy.

Some guys don't know when to kiss, some have to do various escalation techniques for sex then get LMR. All because they are making big jumps... that is no good. How much have you touched her all night? now she is back at your place and you are going in like a wolf on a sheep... of course it is going to frighten her and get you LMR. You have kissed, maybe making out, now you want to put your fingers inside her... it's too big a jump. Have you teased her 3 times yet and pulled away? How many times did you get close to her face before kissing her? Did you tease her about it? When you sit to eat some place, are you sitting ACROSS from her? I never do that. Ever. Always beside her. If I need to justify it, I will. "I'm gonna eat some of your food too". She becomes totally comfortable with my proximity. Then I may dance with her... anywhere... in the street, in a parking garage... in an elevator... touch touch touch...

I never know where my own steps are, but I can tell you guys that it is all really blurry. There is so much touching that "hi" to "I like you" to "I am kissing you" to "I am fucking you" feels like one long step. It's a single step. I have never seen another guy do what I do on an opener. You see her look at you, maybe smile... it's done. All you have to do is not fuck this up and you have her. I Kiss her neck, then I say "hi"... and act as if I didn't do A THING that was strange.

Game is touch... it is all touch... Frame everything you do in a way that allows you to touch more. Be the guy that makes that nervous "I don't know you" energy disappear immediately. Kino isn't some step... some method... some tactic. It IS your game. Even sex is kino. Just lots of it.

You can read a ton of stuff on this forum, and work on a lot of different things. All good. Just don't lose focus of where this is supposed to take you. To more touch. You need to figure out how rapidly you can do this and you need to work on it as much as possible. Your pace may be slower than mine or faster than mine, it may have different tactics... that's all fine... but what it needs to be is the fastest pace that is possible for you. Push that pace all the time, and let everything else you learn about PU be the stuff that helps accomplish this better.