Subject: For Men Over 30: How to lay much younger women in their late teens and early 20’s.
Author: Blackdragon

Note: If you’re a guy under the age of 30, there is no big need to read this unless you’re curious.

Second Note: I've posted a small addendum edit at the bottom of this post.

This is a post for guys in their 30’s or 40’s wanting to lay much younger women. I’m not talking about fucking a woman 10 or 12 years younger than you…you can do that by just running normal solid game (though this post will help you, also). By “much younger women”, I’m taking about a 35 year-old guy or 45 year-old guy fucking an 18 or 19 year-old girl. Girls age 18 to about age 22 are really what I’m addressing here.

These things might work if you’re in your 50’s and have aged well…not sure about that. But this will definitely work for men between 30 and 49.

I’m about to turn 37 years old. In the last three months, I have had sex with two 18 year-olds, two 19 year-olds, and one 22 year-old. Three of those five women were HB9’s or higher. (The other two were pretty damn cute also.) This is on top of many younger women I’ve had sex with over the last year or two. As of this writing, my regulars include women age 19, 22, 24, and 25, not including a very irregular floater who is 18.

So yeah, if you’re a guy in his 30’s or 40’s, and want to get with an 18 year-old or similar, there is hope. And I highly recommend it. I can tell you from experience, it’s every bit as hot as you think it might be. Yes, there ARE some downsides; I’ll get to those. Basically, much younger women can be had using all the normal inner game and technique you’ve learned. There’s just some additional “tweaks” you’re going to need.

I have found, quite on accident, that there is a “target market” of very young women who are DYING to fuck an older guy. And frankly, even though I’m 36, in my experience most of these woman are after guys in their 40’s. No, I’m not kidding. These women HATE guys their own age. They’ve told me stories about how they were in high school, staring wistfully and getting turned on at their 45 year-old math teacher, while all of their girlfriends were hot for the stupid boys on the football team.

Younger girls fall into three categories:

1. Younger girls who will NEVER fuck a man more than about 5-10 years older than her (these are the majority).

2. Younger girls who would actually like to date/fuck a much older man, either a little or a lot.

3. Younger girls who have never really thought about fucking a much older man, but can be swayed if you have LOTS of solid game, both inner and outer (these are the rarest category).

So I’ve got some good news and bad news. Bad news first.

The bad news is that most women are NOT in this target market. I’m taking about women in category one, above. If you’re 40 years old, yes, most 18 year-olds, if you try to approach them sexually, are going to think you’re a gross old man and say “EWWW!”. This is normal. Expect it.

Women in the magical target market (girls in category two)…I don’t know what percentage of younger women fall into this category, but it’s not many. My guess is that it’s more than 10%, but likely not more than 20%. So you’ll have to put in the NUMBERS to find these women.

Also, women in category three are CAN be fucked, but it’s difficult. You have to really know what you’re doing. This is an advanced level of game…I’ve only done it twice, and both times I had to really focus, and in both cases there was a little buyer’s remorse involved (on her part). So I’m not going to go into how to fuck these chicks here. Focus on girls in category two until you get good.

To summarize,

Girls in category one – screen out quickly and ignore.

Girls in category two – see below

Girls in category three – don’t mess around with until you’ve reached an advanced level of game, and have fucked several much younger women already and know what to expect.

That’s the bad news. The good news is that once you find a hottie in category two (and trust me, it’s not hard if you’re putting yourself out there), than most of the work has already been done for you. She already wants to lay you. You’re literally her childhood fantasy come true. You just need to lead her there.

There are three qualities you need to exude in order to lead her to your cock:

1. Confident and Outcome Independent.

These two things are critical with ANY woman, but they are EXTRA important if you’re an older guy trying to lay an much younger woman. It is these two qualities that set you apart from all the other guys her age!

Always remember: It is the qualities that YOU HAVE that guys her age LACK, that makes you attractive.

I’ve made a very detailed post about this. Read it and internalize it:

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2. Totally unaffected by her beauty.

Hot teenagers and very young twentysomethings are bombarded with more compliments and drooling from men than other HB’s in any other age group. The hot 18 year-old is going to get WAY more compliments from men and offers for sex than the hot 25 year-old. Why? The 25 year-old is dealing with older men, and often in a work or school environment where that kind of drooling just isn’t done, or isn’t done as often. Whereas little miss 18 year-old is either in high school, or just “hanging around” at her friend’s house with hordes of AFC guys her own age, all of whom are constantly (and I mean CONSTANTLY) telling her how hot she is, and how much they want to fuck her.

So guess what…you come along and are totally unaffected by her beauty. Like you don't even notice it. She’s literally never seen anything like it. And it confuses her. And it attracts the hell out of her. Extensively field-tested. (Remember that post I made a few posts down about not giving compliments about appearance? Hm?)

3. Father-like qualities.

This is a tough one. I don’t mean “act like her dad”. Hell no. Doing that shit will turn her off, fast. I’m talking about “father-like” qualities. Dominant, but caring. Stern, but fair. Strong, but not emotional. Several other examples:

Occasionally let her see you dressed like a “grown man”. If you ever need to wear a suit and tie, do so in front of her. I was SHOCKED at how much this turned on 18 and 19 year-olds. I really had no idea. It was an instant turn-on when I walked in wearing my business attire.

The reason behind this? My theory is it’s the same when we men get excited when we’re dating a younger woman and she puts on a cheerleader outfit for us. It makes the “forbiddenness” and thus the attraction, more real for us. So when she’s dating an older man, and he's dressed up in a nice business suit, she is equally turned on for the same reasons. As I said, this a is guess on my part but I think I’m right. I’ve seen some men try to act “younger”, or look “younger” in order to score with younger chicks. This is a HUGE mistake, for this reason.

NEVER get sucked into her drama. If she ever gets dramatic, roll your eyes like she’s acting like a child (which, BTW, she is). Read some of Tubarao’s C&F examples in the Relationships forum about dealing with a woman’s drama and shit tests. This is exactly what works with much younger women.

See what I mean by being a father figure?

I was seeing an 18 year-old a while back and one day she came to me with one of her hot friends (who I also fucked) and begged me for a party at my house where she could invite all of her friends over. She begged me, promising me all kinds of things, then she suddenly stopped herself, made a weird look on her face, turned to her friend and said “Wow, this is like we’re asking our dad!”

Exactly.

Some other things that will assist you in sarging, fucking and having relationships with much younger women (age 18 to 22), both good and bad:

1. Women this young are notorious for not giving a shit about any birth control or STD prevention. It’s not that they WANT babies or diseases, it’s just that they don’t give a shit (childless women in their late 20’s, THOSE are the ones who WANT babies). Watch the pregnancy thing and the STD thing extra carefully with women this young. And I don’t care how “smart” she is in other areas of her life…trust me…they just don’t care at this age.

2. Your first one is the hardest. After that, the rest are EASY.

I honestly never thought I would actually be fucking hot 18 year-olds after my divorce in my early thirties. I fantasized about it, sure. But I never thought it would actually happen. I was content fucking hot chicks in their late 20’s, 30’s, and 40’s. But then, a year or two later, I fucked my first 18 year-old. Once I did that, the rest were EASY. I mean EASY. Something just clicked in my head. Today, I don’t even blink anymore. I don’t care if she’s 18 or 28 or 37 or 45. They’re all equally fuckable to me now.

So if you are having trouble, or just can’t get the impossibility of this out of your head, go ahead and fuck an 18 year-old plain-looking girl or 18 year-old warpig. I honestly hate to recommend this kind of thing, but in this particular circumstance, it will help.

I know this because of my own experience. The very first legal teenager I fucked (no, I’ve never fucked an underage girl, to my knowledge) was a decent, freckle-faced HB8. The second was an HB9…who I only fucked once, sadly. The third was cute, but borderline. But all three of them helped my mindset that fucking women this young was “easy” for me. It opened me up to later fucking a semi-famous 18 year-old (who actually became an MLTR for a time) and then an HB9.7 19 year-old (posted about both of these if you DAFS).

3. Women at this age are very, very heavy drinkers. They drink more at this age than any other age group. They’re fucking fish. Last year I watched an 18 year-old FB drink an entire bottle of 151 rum in less than 10 minutes. I can’t even do a shot of that shit. Anyway, be aware and be prepared for this. (The same goes for drug use.)

4. Generally speaking, women this age have lower sex drives than women in their late 20’s or 30’s. They DO like sex, but they like it more for the attention they’re getting, rather than the actual pleasure of sex.

That doesn’t mean you cant have sex often with your 18 year-old GF, MLTR, or FB. You’re just going to have to lean a little harder. If you’re following everything else I recommend in this post, you should already be doing this anyway.

5. Do not expect women this young to be sexually inexperienced. I have been shocked at how sexually experienced young girls are in this day and age, both with numbers of partners and sexual experiences. DO expect them to be bad at the usual stuff women are bad at, like kissing and blowjobs. (Though there are occasional, wonderful exceptions to this!)

6. If you succeed and end up regularly fucking a girl this age, and she nexts you, worry not. If you’re frame was strong, she’ll be back. Girls this age go back and forth in relationships like trying on different outfits. Just give her some time. After a few weeks or months you’ll suddenly get a text or a MySpace message saying “Hey! How’s it going?” Which, of course, is woman language for “I want you to fuck me again.”

7. A reasonably cool MySpace AND Facebook page (yes, you need both) is mandatory if you intend on sarging women this young. MySpace and Facebook is the blood that runs through a young woman’s veins.

8. She’s going to love music you hate. Be prepared.

9. Even if she’s smart, she’s going to talk at great length about silly, vacuous shit. Be prepared. If you can’t handle this type of stuff (and most men can’t, I understand, trust me), then don’t bother to sarge chicks this young. Stick with women over 25. To me, some vacuous talk is worth fucking a teenage body, but you may not be like me. It takes some adjusting.

10. A word about ethics and morals. You may be conflicted about fucking someone’s “little girl”, about fucking someone who could easily be your daughter. I understand. If this is a real concern for you, stay away. Keep it to women 25 and older. I personally don’t have this issue. My opinion is as long as she’s legal and I never lie to her, I’m doing nothing wrong. So I never lie and I check ID, so I’m good. If having sex with legal teenagers is not this simplistic for you, don’t force it. 25 year-old chicks are very hot too. And, technically, the sex is better.

11. Most important thing: CHECK HER ID. We’ve all heard the horror stories about guys who go to prison, or have to wear an ankle bracelet, who have to be registered sex offenders for the rest of their lives, all because they had voluntary sex with a chick 2 months before her 18th birthday, who told him she was 20. Trust me, they’re true.

CHICKS LIE ABOUT THEIR AGE. DON’T BE STUPID. Check her ID before you touch. I’m not kidding around here, you bastard. I don’t care how hot she is or how badly she wants to fuck you or how mature she seems. LEARN THE AGE OF CONSENT IN YOUR COUNTRY OR STATE AND CHECK THAT FUCKING ID. If she “left it at home” or “lost her license” or “can’t find it” (all real excuses I’ve been given), DON’T TOUCH HER. Wait until she can prove her age to you.

ID’s can be fake too. If there is ANY doubt in your mind, get her full name, date of birth, the city where she was born, and if you can, her social security number (or similar), and pay a local private investigator $30 or $40 to verify her age. Yes, I have done this, more than once. It’s money well spent. The sex will actually be better for you KNOWING she really is legal (I’m serious…the sex is better when you’re not worried!). There used to be several web sites that did this but as of this writing they have gone out of business or don’t work any more (if you know of any good ones, please post and let us know).

That’s it folks!

So when you’re pounding that 18 year-old high school senior 20 years younger than you while she’s wearing her cheerleader uniform, give a shout out to ol’ Blackdragon!

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